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The paper is here . Here is the abstract:

If affirmative action results in minority students at elite schools having much potential but weak preparation, then we may expect minority students to start o§ behind their majority counterparts and then catch up over time. Indeed, at the private university we analyze, the gap between white and black grade point averages falls by half between the studentsífreshmen and senior year. However, this convergence masks two e§ects. First, the variance of grades given falls across time. Hence, shrinkage in the level of the gap may not imply shrinkage in the class rank gap. Second, grading standards di§er across courses in di§erent majors. We show that controlling for these two features virtually eliminates any convergence of black/white grades. In fact, black/white gpa convergence is symptomatic of dramatic shifts by blacks from initial interest in the natural sciences, engineering, and economics to majors in the humanities and social sciences. We show that natural science, engineering, and economics courses are more di¢ cult, associated with higher study times, and have harsher grading standards; all of which translate into students with weaker academic backgrounds being less likely to choose these majors. Indeed, we show that accounting for academic background can fully account for di§erences in switching behaviors across blacks and whites.

1 posted on 01/13/2012 2:44:28 PM PST by reaganaut1
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An ingenious plan, on the part of libs.

Get some intelligent “negros”, lure them into a school for which they are not qualified or prepared, get them in for a year, saddle them with $30k debt, prove to them they can't compete in college, and have them drop out. Plus, it makes the rich white kids feel great about the “diversity” the experienced on campus, taking the black kids in as a “pet”.

Now you've got an angry, impoverished, un-degreed, person, who will likely vote democrat the rest of their lives. However, more importantly, they'll never serve as a role model to others in “the community” of persistance and success.

36 posted on 01/13/2012 3:11:57 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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Sounds to me as if the students are upset by the truth.


38 posted on 01/13/2012 3:13:08 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Romney ruined Massachusetts. Now he wants to ruin the nation.)
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Obviously, we need to give MORE Taxpayer money to black under-achievers, and that will solve their problem with getting through tough courses?


41 posted on 01/13/2012 3:22:02 PM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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"54 percent of black men and 51 percent of black women ended up switching to the humanities or another social science"

I'm picking up a pattern here.....these stats are eerily equivalent to the criminal population in prisons.....

43 posted on 01/13/2012 3:23:27 PM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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Before I could make a meaningful analysis of the meaning of this, I would need more information. For instance:

What were the economic backgrounds of these “black” students that dropped out of the “hard” subjects? Were they from poor families and lived in areas where the High Schools did not prepare them for a first rate university setting? In other words, were they allowed to enter with lower GPAs and college entrance exams than the rest of the college student body?

IF this is so I would expect that a “white” student from a similar economic background where a quality High School education was not available to do as poorly. However, does the University not allow “white” students of reduced backgrounds into the school? If not the comparison is not logical.

IF however, students - black or white - come from similar economic backgrounds with similar GPAs and entrance exam results....this would be a troubling findind. It would imply that “black” students are intrinsically lazy (seeking the path of least resistance) or not as mentally capable as their white counterparts. I find both of these conclusion as not being plausible.

I wish they would provide more information.


46 posted on 01/13/2012 3:26:09 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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Awww the poor little race baiters got their itty bitty feewings hurt..... Truth is painful aint it.


49 posted on 01/13/2012 3:29:17 PM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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“The implications and intentions of this research at the hands of our very own prestigious faculty, seemingly without a genuine concern for proactively furthering the well-being of the black community is hurtful and alienating,”

Translation: We can't HANDLE the truth!

50 posted on 01/13/2012 3:32:34 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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the same kind of mutts that don't like background checks as a condition of employment...
54 posted on 01/13/2012 3:42:44 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Their complaint sounds like another version of “If the truth hurts, reject the truth.” Seems they have been ingrained with that narrative. Especially since the liberal Marxists have been telling them for 70 years that “It’s OK to reject the truth - we will care for you, and cuddle you, and make that boo-boo all better!”


55 posted on 01/13/2012 3:49:23 PM PST by majormaturity
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Geeze, there’s always the NBA!!!!!!!!!!! Or how about a career storming Foot Lockers to steal Air Jordans??????????? See, the opportunities for these geniuses are endless!


59 posted on 01/13/2012 4:31:46 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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“...without a genuine concern for proactively furthering the well-being of the black community....”

What is being advocated in that statement.....affirmative grading on top of affirmative action admissions?

News Flash! Only enroll in schools and courses for which you have scholastically PREPARED and you’ll be fine!


60 posted on 01/13/2012 4:37:52 PM PST by Tucker39
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The bottom line is the PICTURES. There MUST be enough BLACKS to fill out the pictures - without them in the pictures, Duke would be considered a RACIST institution.

So the blacks show up, let themselves get in the pictures, then either transfer to something much easier, or simply drop out.

Nothing special with Duke, EVERY college that’s linked to the federal government does the same - or they are TOAST.


61 posted on 01/13/2012 4:51:48 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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Ironic that we are coming into an Affirmative action holiday dedicated to a plagiarizer, womanizer, and con artist. What do the people expect when a certain group hoists upon the rest of us a hero that was manufactured just to appease a certain group of belly whiners?
62 posted on 01/13/2012 5:07:38 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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Once upon a time, at a quality university, no one would automatically have assumed that the humanities and social sciences were less rigorous and had easier grading standards. It is sad how some academic disciplines have self-destructed.

One needs to be reasonably bright to perform in any rigorously taught discipline. That said, the sciences mainly require precision and discipline, with the significant exception of studies that press out into the nether regions of mathematics, where most people hit the wall long before reaching the cutting edge. Most scientists, however, don't operate at that level.

In my overlong academic career, the flat-out smartest person I ever met was doing political philosophy, rigorously. When I last had contact with him, he was taking a year out -- and a year, for him, was probably enough -- to learn classical Greek so he could read Plato and Aristotle in the original. He had not only read everything, he remembered it, and could abstract and analyze at the drop of a hat. In terms of mental gymnastics, he regularly left the rest of us standing in the dust. Brilliant man. Smarter than any mere scientist I've ever met.

63 posted on 01/13/2012 5:15:15 PM PST by sphinx
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In responding to the paper, which also found similar results for students of alumni, who also get extra consideration in admissions,....
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Ah!...So the “legacy” admission students ( likely white) have a similar pattern as the black affirmative action students! Hm?

My conclusion:

Both groups ( black and legacy students) enter with lower SAT/ACT and GPAs. This is due to less diligence in mastering mathematics and reading/writing skills in middle school and high school, poorer study habits, less discipline to postpone immediate wants, and lower general intelligence, or a combination of all.

65 posted on 01/13/2012 5:31:34 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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I WANT THE TRUTH.

You can’t handle the truth.

Aint that the truth.


68 posted on 01/13/2012 5:52:01 PM PST by Venturer
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http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/g.htm


70 posted on 01/13/2012 6:14:52 PM PST by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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Not only do they drop out of tough subjects, but they whine when it’s talked about. When will we get a break.


71 posted on 01/13/2012 6:20:13 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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When I graduated from University back in 1995 there wasn’t a single black student in any of the Engineering classes that I took.


72 posted on 01/13/2012 6:24:50 PM PST by Chewbacca (woof woof. That's my other wookie impression.)
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73 posted on 01/13/2012 8:23:48 PM PST by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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