The fact that so many people are blind to the fact that Ron Paul is a raving lunatic is really scary.
Posted on 01/10/2012 8:12:26 PM PST by Cheeks
Newt Gingrich on Guns: A Mixed Record
Tuesday, 22 November 2011 08:18
Prior to the “Republican Revolution” of 1994, Rep. Newt Gingrich of Georgia had earned an A rating with Gun Owners of America. But that all changed in 1995, after Republicans were swept to power and Gingrich became Speaker of the House.
The Republicans gained the majority, thanks in large part to gun owners outraged by the Clinton gun ban. And upon taking the reins of the House, Speaker Gingrich said famously that, “As long as I am Speaker of this House, no gun control legislation is going to move in committee or on the floor of this House and there will be no further erosion of their rights.”
His promise didn’t hold up, however, and his GOA rating quickly dropped to well below the “C-level.” In 1996, the Republican-led Congress passed the “gun free school zones act,” creating criminal safe zones like Virginia Tech, where the only person armed was a murderous criminal. Speaker Newt Gingrich voted for the bill containing this ban.[1]
The same bill also contained the now infamous Lautenberg gun ban, which lowered the threshold for losing one’s Second Amendment rights to a mere misdemeanor.[2] Gun owners could, as a result of this ban, lose their gun rights forever for non-violent shouting matches that occurred in the home — and, in many cases, lose their rights without a jury trial.
While a legislator might sometimes vote for a spending bill which contains objectionable amendments, that was clearly NOT the case with Newt Gingrich in 1996. Speaking on Meet the Press in September of that year, Speaker Gingrich said the Lautenberg gun ban was “a very reasonable position.”[3] He even refused to cosponsor a repeal of the gun ban during the next Congress — despite repeated requests to do so.[4]
Also in 1996, Speaker Gingrich cast his vote for an anti-gun terror bill which contained several harmful provisions. For example, one of the versions he supported (in March of that year) contained a DeLauro amendment that would have severely punished gun owners for possessing a laser sighting device while committing an infraction as minor as speeding on a federal reservation.[5] (Not only would this provision have stigmatized laser sights, it would have served as a first step to banning these items.) Another extremely harmful provision was the Schumer amendment to “centralize Federal, State and Local police.”[6]
Final passage of H.R. 3610, Sept. 28, 1996 at: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll455.xml . Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) warned his colleagues about the hidden dangers in H.R. 3610, and in regard to the Kohl ban, noted that it would “prohibit most persons from carrying unloaded firearms in their automobiles.”
See Gingrich’s vote at: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll455.xml .
[3] Associated Press, “Gingrich Favors Handgun Ban for Domestic Abuse Convicts,” Deseret News, Sept. 16, 1996. The full quote reveals how much Speaker Gingrich had adopted the anti-gunners’ line of thinking: “I’m very much in favor of stopping people who engage in violence against their spouses from having guns,” the Georgia Republican said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I think that’s a very reasonable position.” But the fact that this gun ban covers misdemeanors in the home is primary evidence that NON-violent people have been subjected to lifetime gun bans for things like: shouting matches, throwing a set of keys in the direction of another person, spanking a child, etc.
[4] See H.R.1009, “States’ Rights and Second and Tenth Amendment Restoration Act of 1997,” introduced by Rep. Helen Chenoweth (R-ID).
H.R. 2703, March 14, 1996 at: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll066.xml .
S. 735, April 18, 1996 at: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll126.xml .
If Ron Paul wins the Presidency, we’re going to NEED our guns, because there will be endless waves of attacks on American soil, and our military will be some sort of home defense force . Ron Paul may be a social conservative and have fiscal common sense, but he is a failure when it comes to making and supporting policy that protects American interests abroad.
On the other hand, has anyone noticed that Rick Perry, the staunchest conservative in the field, got an A rating? People, you need to rethink Rick Perry. He’s the best man for the job. just because he has had difficulty in the past in prior debates doesn’t mean he is un-electable.
Rick Perry: A Near-perfect Gun Record as Governor of Texas
Tuesday, 22 November 2011 08:15
As Governor of Texas for a decade, Rick Perry has shown himself to be a tough defender of the right to keep and bear arms.
In his private life, Gov. Perry carries concealed and knows how to use his weapon. While jogging with his dog last year, he used his .380 Ruger to shoot and kill a cayotte that was menacing his pet.
“Don’t attack my dog or you might get shot ... if you’re a coyote,” he told the Associated Press.
As for his public record, Gov. Perry has a near-perfect gun record, having signed dozens of pro-gun bills into law. Here’s his record as governor:
2001
Signed Senate Bill 766, which prohibits lawsuits against gun ranges, gun manufacturers, and distributors for anything carried out in lawful operation.
2004
Signed concealed handgun reciprocity agreements with Georgia and Montana.
2005
Signed House Bill 225 (Driver) which extends the renewal period for a concealed handgun license from four to five years without an increase in renewal fee. The bill also included a provision that a person from any state can qualify for a Texas concealed handgun license (CHL).
Singed House Bill 322 (Hupp) which reduces all fees for a concealed handgun license for military members and veterans by 50 percent and lowers the age from 21 to 18 for members of the military or veterans to obtain a concealed handgun license.
Signed House Bill 685 (Rose) which exempts military members and veterans from taking the range portion of the concealed handgun licensing process if they had been weapons certified in the military within the past five years prior to application for the license.
Signed House Bill 1483 (Frost) which expanded methods by which applicants for a concealed handgun license may pay the fees to include personal check, cash, and credit card. Currently only cashiers checks and money orders are accepted.
Signed House Bill 823 (Keel) which allows for concealed carry in a privately owned vehicle, without having to obtain a permit from the government.
Signed House Bill 1038 (Isett) which reduces the fee for renewal of a canceled handgun permit for senior citizen by 50 percent. The current renewal fee for a senior citizen is $70 for a four-year renewal period and this bill will reduce that fee to $35 for those 60 years of age or older.
Signed Senate Bill 734 (Williams) which restricts the ability of a city to prohibit the discharge of firearms on large pieces of land in their extraterritorial jurisdiction.
2007
Signed House Bill 233 (Ritter) which waives CHL fees for active duty military.
Signed House Bill 991 (Rose) which protected the privacy and safety of CHL holders by restricting access to such records, thus keeping names of permit holder from being made public.
Signed House Bill 1815 (Isett) which expands constitutional carry by allowing the carrying a handgun on one’s own premises or premises under one’s control, and between a premises and a car under one’s control, as well as in a vehicle under one’s control. Defines premises to include recreational vehicles such as a motor home.
Signed House Bill 1839 (Bonnen) which eases renewal requirements after the third renewal of a CHL.
Signed Senate Bill 112 (Carona) which prohibits the seizure by police of lawfully carried and possessed firearms during a disaster.
Signed Senate Bill 322 (Duell), not allowing foster homes to prohibit firearms and ammunition.
Signed Senate Bill 378 (Wentworth), a castle doctrine bill removing the requirement to retreat before using deadly force against an attacker in one’s home, auto or place of business.
Signed Senate Bill 535 (Hegar) which prohibits the Lower Colorado River Authority from adopting rules against concealed carry or self-defense.
2009
Signed House Bill 2664 (Ritter), creating a defense to prosecution for the offense of unlawful carrying of a handgun by a license holder on the premises of certain businesses.
Signed Senate Bill 1188 (Estes) which expands the number of states from which Texans can purchase long guns.
Signed Senate Bill 1236 (Seliger), requiring that a person charged with a domestic violence misdemeanor offense be notified that upon conviction they may lose their right to possess a firearm.
Signed Senate Bill 1742 (Shapiro) which expands the authorities of cities to regulate the discharge of firearms outside of city limits (GOA opposes).
2011
Signed House Bill 25 (Guillen), extending the right to carry on a boat or watercraft with the necessity of a CHL.
Signed House Bill 1595 (Isaac) which protects shooting ranges from frivolous lawsuits.
Signed House Bill 2127 (Garen) which restricts the ability of certain cities to prohibit shooting.
Signed House Bill 2560 (Sheffield) which allows foster parents with a CHL to carry in an automobile with children present.
Signed Senate Bill 321 (Hegar) which allows Texans with a concealed carry permit to keep their firearm in locked glove boxes in their automobile while at place of employment.
most of the savages in the ME have never heard a radio or read a newspaper. 99 percent of them see no threat to you.
he biggest threat to you is the local gang banger or drug addicted thief holding up a corner liquor store.
Why take up with an organization that’s supposed to be following these things.
His support of gun company responsibility gives Ron Paul an F rating in the “Xzins Gun Rating Scheme”.
It doesn’t take a committee decision to realize that Paul’s decision in this case was idiotic.
LOL. Some of you are so blinded by hate of RP to see that on most issues he is better than the others.
I’m not overlooking Perry, but at this point, it doesn’t look good for him. I know it’s early, but it seems unlikely that he will win. All signs point to Romney vs. Obama.
We lose.
Paul’s vote on that case was Paul’s vote. It has nothing to do with hate. He voted that gun companies should be liable for the acts of gun owners.
That would be like getting an A rating for pro-life even though you voted to double funding for planned parenthood.
I think some folks LOVE for Ron Paul is blinding them to reality.
If the president only dealt with gun rights, I’d say perfect. Ron Paul is insane on foreign policy. I don’t vote for a Blame America First guy. Iran with nukes is not good any way you look at it.
What else was in the bill?
The fact that so many people are blind to the fact that Ron Paul is a raving lunatic is really scary.
What difference would that make? Ron Paul took to the house floor to explain his lame reason for opposing the legislation. His speech tells me he has no clue about the obligation of congress to protect the 2nd amendment under it's powers in the 14th Amendment.
Paul is such a lunatic 10th amendment fanatic that he fails to recognize that the 14th amendment transferred the bill of rights to the states and granted congress the power to enact legislation to protect those rights when they are infringed in the states.
Ron Paul is not as smart as his lunatic fans think he is. But he is probably smarter than they are.
Got it, you know more than GOA on thus issue. LOL.
As a proud gun owner I am not going to sweat this. We have won the arguement and lets enjoy the victory. Even with the most leftist president the antis have not laid a glove on us. A few decades ago we were in the minority, but today we hold the high ground. Many on left are moaning that they have lost the issue. We stay vigilant, but lets act like the winners that we are. Like Chuck Noll said about touchdowns, lets act like we done it before. For now, we won. Lets enjoy it with our heads held high. The Schumers and McCarthys are meaningless in today’s world, they fall on deaf ears, even in their own party.
I know that if Guns were Life that ron paul voted for the equivalent of doubling the budget of planned parenthood.
A proper comparision would be that Ron Paul would oppose the partial birth abortion ban because he did not think that Congress had the power to prevent States from legalizing infanticide.
The only majority protecting the 2nd Amendment is a 5-4 vote in the SCOTUS. The next President will probably select 2 new justices. The candidates rating on this issue is VERY IMPORTANT!
Everyone knows the Fed has authority in prescribed areas, to include enforcing the law of the land.
No way Paul doesn’t know that. Therefore, the question is “what’s he really up to?”
I’m sorry but this is an incorrect understanding of the Constitution and the 14th Amendment. The Bill of Rights does not apply to the States, and the 14th Amendment DID NOT (neither at the time of its ratification as understood and agreed to by the ratifying States nor in practice over the following decades) grant power to the federal government to enforce the Bill of Rights within the States.
What you are referring to is the erroneous “incorporation doctrine,” which was nothing more than unconstitutional judicial activism by federal courts in the 1890s bent on expanding the powers of Washington DC. Just because the federal government has been getting away with something for a century doesn’t mean it is constitutional (take Social Security, Medicare, minimum wages, etc. for example).
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