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The Trial of SSgt Wuterich Day One: Chessani Will Not Testify
Defend Our Marines ^ | January 5, 2012 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 01/06/2012 4:19:29 AM PST by RedRover

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To: RedRover

And the very real, massacre at Fort Hood? Where IS Col. Hassan? Still collecting his paycheck?


21 posted on 01/06/2012 8:11:14 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier out of o;ur White House!/ vote Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: RedRover

And the very real, massacre at Fort Hood? Where IS Col. Hassan? Still collecting his paycheck?


22 posted on 01/06/2012 8:11:14 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier out of o;ur White House!/ vote Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: RedRover

And the very real, massacre at Fort Hood? Where IS Col. Hassan? Still collecting his paycheck?


23 posted on 01/06/2012 8:11:14 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier out of o;ur White House!/ vote Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: RedRover

And the very real, massacre at Fort Hood? Where IS Col. Hassan? Still collecting his paycheck?


24 posted on 01/06/2012 8:11:14 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier out of o;ur White House!/ vote Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: RedRover
Haditha Marines ping.

Let's not forget 3 other Marines careers were ruined because of a rush to judgment:
Maj. Gen. Richard Huck, Col. Robert Sokoloski, and Col.Stephen Davis.

I wonder if Dinsmore is to testify on behalf of the defense.
his testimony plus the Scan Eagle video should make this a short proceeding.

Semper Fi...

25 posted on 01/06/2012 8:14:40 AM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: RedRover

Good piece by Nat and thanks to you both for covering this.


26 posted on 01/06/2012 8:40:40 AM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: Girlene

Yes, still charged with the deaths at the “white taxi”. It’s always been difficult to “true up” the numbers. You’ll recall that even though the allegation was that 24 Iraqis were killed, the Marines were individually charged with the deaths of less than that number.

And it’s more confusing now because it’s been decided to use numbers for the alleged victims in court rather than names.

I need to spend some time with the (recently revised) charges and try to make sense of the numbers. Will let you know what I find out.


27 posted on 01/06/2012 9:01:11 AM PST by RedRover (How's Boyene?)
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To: xzins

Maybe so but let’s hope an appeal is moot!


28 posted on 01/06/2012 9:04:35 AM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover

Agreed.

Given the nature of ROEs then in effect, I honestly can’t see how he can be convicted.


29 posted on 01/06/2012 9:09:42 AM PST by xzins (Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
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To: stylin19a

Thanks for that reminder about Maj. Gen. Richard Huck, Col. Robert Sokoloski, and Col. Stephen Davis. Good men all.

Yes, Major Dinsmore will testify (last I knew he was a major—maybe he’s made lieutenant colonel by now) and that will be a big deal (except to the media who will ignore the real story, as usual).


30 posted on 01/06/2012 9:17:51 AM PST by RedRover
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To: xzins
Agreed! For the reasons you say and the full picture of just what was going on that day. The ambush of SSgt Wuterich's convoy was just part of insurgent attacks that day.


31 posted on 01/06/2012 9:21:01 AM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover

Thanks. The charge sheet I found, did indicate the 5 guys from the taxi when I cross-referenced names with those on Wikepedia. I don’t think it was the most current charge sheet, though.


32 posted on 01/06/2012 9:44:29 AM PST by Girlene (Hanging in there....thanks for asking!)
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Regarding the charges and number of alleged victims, I haven't seen the revised charge sheet so I'm fiddling in the dark but...

The original charge sheet for all eight Marines (posted here) had nine specifications of Voluntary Manslaughter for SSgt Wuterich.

As you'll see at the link above, the specifications listed eight people by name (from houses 1, 2, and 3) and then the ninth specification gets vague: "willfully and unlawfully kill one or more unknown persons, located near a white car, at or near the intersection of Routes Chestnut and Viper, by shooting them with a loaded M16A4 service rifle."

Dela Cruz testified there were five at the car so that would give a total of 13. But I'll let you know if I get more up-to-date charge sheet or more information.

33 posted on 01/06/2012 9:56:47 AM PST by RedRover
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To: jazusamo

Thanks, jaz. Since someone has to do it, I’m glad it’s us!


34 posted on 01/06/2012 10:05:58 AM PST by RedRover
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To: cricket

Excellent question, cricket! And I’ve never heard anyone in the media call the real one a massacre.


35 posted on 01/06/2012 10:08:22 AM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover; natshouse; jazusamo

Powerful and Informative Update by Nat Helms!

Thanks Red for providing the link to the SSgt Wuterich Master Thread.

Excellent Post!


36 posted on 01/06/2012 10:17:32 AM PST by smoothsailing (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Girlene

For some reason, the USMC site with the charge sheets keeps giving me an error message. Hey, now that I think about it, that makes sense!


37 posted on 01/06/2012 10:18:05 AM PST by RedRover (Glad there's hanging in on the Ene front!)
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks, smooth! Nat’s staying about five minutes from the camp gates in Oceanside. Said he found a place with that best sushi he’s had since he was in Japan.

Haven’t had any updates today but hope for something soon.


38 posted on 01/06/2012 10:29:45 AM PST by RedRover
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To: RedRover
Thanks, Red. Those charges are the current ones....I was looking at an old charge/specification sheet. It seems the specific named voluntary manslaughter charges are for the 8 deaths in house 2 if you compare to the names listed in Wikipedia.

The 9th charge of vol. manslaughter is for one or more deaths of unknown persons near a white car, located near or at an intersection ..... Wow, nothing like being real specific in that last charge.
39 posted on 01/06/2012 10:35:29 AM PST by Girlene
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To: RedRover
Nat’s staying about five minutes from the camp gates in Oceanside. Said he found a place with that best sushi he’s had since he was in Japan.

Good for Nat! Looking forward to his daily updates.

40 posted on 01/06/2012 10:52:55 AM PST by smoothsailing (If you knew Sushi Like I knew Sushi, Oh,Oh,Oh what a Gill!)
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