Posted on 12/24/2011 10:37:52 AM PST by Jim Robinson
I should think so. 10k is such an arbitrary number...what about the 8000 voters that actually signed real petitions? If they end up on the ballot this will turn out be a blessing in disguise, as there is no such thing as bad press.
“That is one day AFTER Romney’s campaign manager in VA (the Lt. Governor) turned in 16,000.So they made up the last-minute rule that guaranteed Romney’s (already filed) petitions would be accepted without testing, while knowing that the new extra scrutiny would certainly disqualify most other candidates! “
Smell a rat? I smell a whole ghetto full of them. This doesn’t gore my personal ox (I support Ron Paul amongst the reamining candidates), but this is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Maybe y’all are getting a taste for why I dislike the VA gop.
“.....If they end up on the ballot this will turn out be a blessing in disguise, as there is no such thing as bad press.”
Interesting excerpt from the comments section of HillBuzz:
“...Ever since the Dems changed the rules in 1999 to make it harder to get on the ballot, the rules have not been enforced. In fact, the DNC has given waivers to its candidates who did not obtain enough signatures....” bttt
See full exchange below:
HillBuzz 12/26/2011
Comments section:
http://hillbuzz.org/hillbuzz-open-thread-boxing-day-2011-2011#idc-container
Layla · 4 hours ago
.......People in Virginia are abuzz with the news that Rick Perry’s and Newt Gingrich’s names will not appear on the primary ballot. There will be only two candidates for whom to vote: Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. Write-ins are not allowed in the Virginia primary. The Virginia GOP, which is responsible for verifying signature petitions, is going to catch a lot of flak over this, since this is the first year the signatures have been fully verified - by either the DNC or the RNC. This is also the first year that the voting rolls have been computerized, so it was not as painstaking to verify signatures in previous years. Also noteworthy, though, is that this is the first year the strict rules for getting on the ballot are going to be enforced. Ever since the Dems changed the rules in 1999 to make it harder to get on the ballot, the rules have not been enforced. In fact, the DNC has given waivers to its candidates who did not obtain enough signatures. I would not want to be manning the RNC phones this week.
Kevin DuJan · 3 hours ago
The RNC’s phones should receive Hell all week. Absolute Hell. Something tells me we need to help make that happen.
Layla · 2 hours ago
I am in a wait-and-see mode, Kevin. There is no doubt the RPV is in tight with the elitist Republicans. The Lt. Gov. of Virginia is Romney’s campaign chair and personally delivered his petitions. No judge in Virginia is appointed due to legal accument or adherence to the U.S. or State Constitutions - they are appointed based on their efforts to get the appointer elected. From what I have been able to glean from research, the minimum number is signatures is 10,000 with at least 400 signatures from each of the 11 districts. BUT, if you turn in over 15,000 signatures, they are not verified. Romney and Paul did. ..... Romney started collecting signatures this past summer. Ron Paul started gathering signatures in September. Bachmann, Santorum, and Huntsman did not even try to get on the ballot in Virginia. Perhaps it is not a battleground state after all.
Lady Penguin says:
2011/12/26 at 8:23 am
.....I live in Virginia. Everyone is making a big deal about Newt, but the Perry situation is also noteworthy. Jerry Kilgore, his Va. campaign manager, is a former Va. Attorney General (2001-2005), also ran for governor in 2005 but lost to Democrat Tim Kaine. He should have known, and paid close attention.
That said, the GOP looks bad with this…and have made Va. irrelevant in the primaries. Many people will stay home and not vote if the choices are Romney and Paul. The establishment ignores the fact that McCain got as “many” votes as he did because of Sarah on the ballot – without her, his loss would have been far greater. IOW, we’re not just going to go for Romney…
Fascinating. Better stock up on popcorn...
bump!
I know I am! LOL
“My experience has been that the electorate gets very little personal attention. They feel that they are taken for granted and that no one listens to them.Doorknocking, alleviates that feeling.”
Yes, it’s accepted that Romney’s Va. GOP leaders all got together and planned a way to make all GOP voters feel good about themselves....oh, wait...they managed to leave Romney alone on the ballot with no credible alternative.
“Or the establishment RINOs are a pack of vicious FASCIST dogs!...Gingrich is the leading Republican candidate both nationally and in Virginia! They cannot be allowed to keep him off the ballot!!”
I am at my end with the GOP, Jim. If Romney is forced down out throats, just like ObamaCare was...we need to stick a boot up the arse of the GOP.
The day the 12 election is over, it is time for the Teaparty to turn into the Tea Party. Not a Third Party...a construction of the Tea Party and destruction of the Republican Party. It is no longer a useful conservative conduit.
I would expect a maneuver like this from a Soviet Socialist Republic, not from the GOP of the Commonwealth of Virginia. Between this and the near unanimous GOP punditry supporting Romney, we can’t deceive ourselves any longer.
Would love to see Tea Parties from across the nation descend on Virginia and have a rally the country will never forget. GOOOOOOOOOOO NEWT!!!!!!!!!!!
Went over to the FB page Jim Robinson created and clicked like to get Gingrich included. Hope it takes OFF
mrsme1, we are in the same boat. Mitt is fighting a dirty campaign and buying the presidency via his money and promises of cabinet or other positions. IF he is the gop nominee...I know of 6 votes in my own family he wont get
From my observations, a RINO President who is willing to “reach across the aisle and work in bi-partisan support” with the DemonRats has done more damage to this country than a divided government with a Democrat President and a Republican congress. The MSM praises the “bi-partisan” President and eggs him on to work for the people.
I'm more nauseated by the current crop of RINO GOP candidates than I have been for the last five POTUS election cycles.
Romney and/or Gingrich = an Obama re-election.
Paul (who has never been a Republican, and has always been a libertarian) = an Obama re-election.
If the GOP candidate is one of the above, I WILL vote third party, or write in.
If these people are the “best candidates” the GOP can offer, what does it really matter?
This nation is screwed.
“Jim Hoft on Monday, December 26, 2011
snip
And then there’s this:
The VA GOP published a letter that announced that any candidate who submitted a petition with more than 15,000 signatures would not be checked (’shall be deemed to have met the threshold for qualification and will be certified’).
The letter is at http://www.rpv.org/sites/default/files/2012%20Petition%20Certification%20Process_1.pdf
Romney submitted 16,000 signatures. Newt submitted 12,000.
Both Newt and Rick Perry reportedly turned in over 10,000 signatures before the deadline. But it looks like the rules were changed mid-game. This doesn’t pass the smell test.”
No, rules changed mid-game certainly does NOT pass the smell test.
The Montgomery County GOP chair (who claims to be a tea party member) refers to Pat Mullins as “our beloved Chairman”. [Marcy Hernick] on his Facebook Page. It appears that we have infiltrators in the Tea Party in Virginia.
http://www.facebook.com/dpatrickmullins
I will vote for Ron Paul in VA just to attempt to deprive Romney of VA delegates.
So, "fishy indeed"!
Just for the record.
With Mullins having outed himself as a FASCIST PIG (they’re all Democrat party agents these days) it’s clear who has to be purged as soon as possible.
To get the best postage rate your typical mailing addresses for STANDARD RATE and FIRST-CLASS MAIL are run against electronic data files indicating forwarding to a new address.
These files are updated at regular intervals ~ "daily". However, for mailing purposes when you make a mailing you lock into a specific date just in case there's some downstream problem that might cost you more money.
This makes it remarkably easy to kill three birds with one stone: 1. Get lowest presort rates, 2. Avoid wasting money on preparing mail that wouldn't get to the delivery address anyway, and 3. REMOVE OLD ADDRESSES and REPLACE THEM WITH NEW ADDRESSES.
It's pretty obvious that first benefit and the second benefit are highly important to local governments hard pressed by lower property tax revenues. Political parties probably don't care for the third benefit since it automatically REMOVES the dead and those who've moved away from the file of those who get new voter ID cards (where that system is used).
That system can also remove welfare cheats from the local files and make substantial savings.
This process cannot indicate which New York residents should be removed from Florida voter registration files, but they probably file forwarding orders twice a year ~ once to Florida in November, and once to New York in April. Since you have access to the entire log of postal forwarding orders when you use these systems there's no reason PROBABLE DUPLICATES can't be identified and arrests made (particularly in Florida). Maybe a Republican Governor would be interested in doing that (hint, wink, hint hint, wink wink).
Since this particular thread is fairly large with many regular FREEPERS posting on it Google.com will be belching it up at the top of the list when someone asks for information on VOTE, FRAUD, FAST FORWARD, NEW YORK, FLORIDA ~ which ought to do the trick I think.
Bolling is behind this whole thing.
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