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ACLU files federal lawsuit over Wisconsin's voter ID law
Chicago Tribune ^ | 12-13-11

Posted on 12/13/2011 2:13:06 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic

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To: traditional1
It's been known for a very long time that 1/2 of all union members (name the union, doesn't matter) VOTE REPUBLICAN.

So, what is it you are trying to say?

41 posted on 12/13/2011 5:17:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"It's been known for a very long time that 1/2 of all union members (name the union, doesn't matter) VOTE REPUBLICAN.

So, what is it you are trying to say?"

Oh, that's SPECIAL!

Where do ALL the Union donations to the DNC come from?

HINT: "Republican" voters that are in Unions?

ROFL

42 posted on 12/13/2011 5:20:25 PM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: traditional1

Those are NOT voluntary “donations”. You assume the unions make those donations out of their own funds too. A number of them simply launder money for criminals and foreign nationals.


43 posted on 12/13/2011 5:24:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: traditional1
I noticed that you include union members as not being among those who "Those who work for a living"

That is just crazy talk.

If you haven't noticed union membership is down to almost nothing in Right To Work states so that means that people who work for a living and live in a "Non-Right To Work" state are union members through no fault of their own.

How about this, Catholics vote for Democrats ~ and, in the Obama election, a majority of Catholics voted for Obama. An overwhelming majority of Jews voted for Democrats, and for Obama, and even the Moslems voted in overwhelming numbers for Democrats and Obama.

Do Catholics, Jews and Moslems work for a living? Or are they simply easily misled?

It's really difficult to imagine that all the Catholics, Jews and Moslems in this country are on welfare sucking down the goodies big time. They may be and I don't know about it, but can you provide some numbers here?

44 posted on 12/13/2011 5:30:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The atheist Democrat lawyers at the ACLU usually pull this kind of dirty trick closer to an election so they can get a friendly liberal scumbag judge to issue an “injunction”. I wonder why they pulled the trigger on this now? End-of-the-year fund drive, maybe?


45 posted on 12/13/2011 5:35:51 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: afraidfortherepublic
This post
has this picture indicating that some are more equal than others:

I'm saving this gem to show those agitating against voter ID and ask them to explain. I expect the hypocrisy to reach new levels.

46 posted on 12/13/2011 6:13:12 PM PST by Oatka (This is the USA, assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: muawiyah
I'll provide you a few numbers:

Obama won in 2008 with the votes of those who live off the government+white guilt voters+those who are here illegally, and not U.S. Citizens.

If a Catholic Union Member voted for Obama, it was because the Unions are the money-laundering AND the recipients of Taxpayer-funded support.

Medicaid: The largest of all safety net programs, Medicaid enrollment for the first time ever topped 50 million in June 2010, the most recent figures available. That's up from 42.3 million in June 2007.

How do you think the bulk of them will vote?

Food stamps: The number of people in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as food stamps, hit a record 44.2 million in January. That's up 4.7 million from the prior year.

Unemployment insurance: More than 8.4 million people are collecting either state or federal jobless benefits.

47 posted on 12/13/2011 6:32:14 PM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: traditional1
Unemployment insurance is paid for by a tax on all employers. It's not a handout.

How does being unemployed trigger people to vote for Democrats?

And, back to the Catholic issue, why did Catholics give a majority of their votes to Obama and the Democrats in 2008? Were they all unemployed, on welfare, or did they belong to unions?

48 posted on 12/13/2011 6:36:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Give it a rest.

Unemployed, Catholic, Union-members voted overwhelmingly for Obama.

P.S. Unemployment EXTENSIONS come out of the Taxpayers pocket, indirectly, when "bailouts" to fund the States who are insolvent are happening everywhere. (No; the Fed doesn't pay, the Employer does, but when the Employer is THE STATE, COUNTY, LOCAL, of Federal Government, who do you think pays the "un-Employment"?????)

49 posted on 12/13/2011 6:54:19 PM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: traditional1
So, how many unemployed government employees are there?

Fur Shur there aren't nearly enough ~ should be half the teachers in the country standing their on their thumbs or something but they're not.

But, let's go back to your belief that only unemployed, Catholic union members voted for Obama.

Think about that a second ~ why were Catholic union members "unemployed"? Do unemployed people pay union dues religiously?

What you're doing is you are working in broad categories that you think are relevant to the question of who wins elections.

Fact is in a society organized such that it's political dimensions follow a mathematical shape known as a Bimodal Saddle, you just don't get nice, neat, micro categorization.

What you get are two core groups ~ one we call Republican and the other we call Democrat. There's a thin fringe around each.

The objective in any election is to PULL IN your own base or core voters, AND attract one of the factions that make up the other party to vote for you.

The two poles are, at this time in history, organized differently. The Democrats are composed of a number of special interest groups. The Republicans are composed of a number of occupational categories as well as religious traditionalists.

Neither pole pulls in everyone. You have half the union guys voting for Republicans and half for Democrats, yet their union affiliate is always part of the Democrat Party governing council!

The objective for the Republicans in any election is to try to pull off a few more union votes from the Democrat column while NOT alienating the far larger numbers of union members who almost always give Republicans their votes.

The objective for the Democrats is to pull in their own "we can count on these guys" union member votes (half the total) while also pulling in a few more union members who usually vote for Republicans ~ but the Democrats don't do that without risk. They've already alienated half the union members with their BS and betrayals so they don't want to alienate more of them.

Consequently you don't see Republicans running around saying union members are scum, nor do you see Democrats running around saying that union members who vote for Republicans are betraying their class, or are scabs.

Just doesn't happen ~ yet, I gather from the way you want to categorize folks, you think you can get more votes from the other side's factions by calling them names and belittling them.

That doesn't win elections.

I'd go into this in a bit more depth but it's getting late. Fur Shur the Republican Establishment's wealthier blue-hairs imagine that we win votes by beating up on voters, but fortunately they only control the RNC. That's balanced by the true-believing Leftwingtards in the Democrat party. They think they get more votes by conducting a burn-all-bridges class warfare.

50 posted on 12/13/2011 7:12:03 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Lancey Howard

Recalls are in the works. The unionistas want to have all the latitude they can muster to cheat during the recalls. They don’t want any voter ID.


51 posted on 12/13/2011 7:36:41 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I know about the recalls, but I’m not sure about the timing. Do you figure the scumbag atheist Democrat lawyers at the ACLU timed this so they can delay hearings, etc., and then get an injunction from a friendly scumbag Democrat judge at just the right time immediately prior to election day?


52 posted on 12/13/2011 7:40:31 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Sounds like something they’d do. But it is uncertain as to when recalls would happen, if they do. We already have a sprig primary and a spring election scheduled for Feb. & April. They don’t want to show IDs for that either.

I don’t think the gubenatorial recall will fall at the same timme as the regularly scheduled elections. Of course there are going to be massive challenges, so who knows when the election will actually happen.

t least 3000 of us have already signed up to enter all the names into a data base. Then, I suppose it will be sorted and duplicate names will be challenged and culled.


53 posted on 12/13/2011 7:56:58 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
There's very little you can do without ID.

You can't tour an apartment community, you can't do banking, you can't even exchange a recycling receipt for cash without ID.

54 posted on 12/13/2011 7:57:29 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: EGPWS

We always have to show ID to vote here. No ID no vote.


55 posted on 12/13/2011 8:06:13 PM PST by Albertafriend
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To: muawiyah
"you think you can get more votes from the other side's factions by calling them names and belittling them"

LOL

Your immature summary fails to invoke common sense, or experience.

I don't pander for votes, patronize, nor do I try to be an amateur psychologist. Indoctinated masses, who fail to use common sense, fall into the pandering/patronizing mode to try to fool people into voting their way. I call a spade a spade, myself, and am not into "political correctness" and afraid to speak the facts.

If that's losing votes, then the votes you're seeking are people who can't think for themselves, function on their own, and love the Nanny State.

Singing Kumbaya, holding hands, and chanting do NOT make a strong Nation. Without principle and values, we wind up with what we have today, which is parasitic/dependency on others, but the "others" are nearly used-up, and running out of benevolence.

56 posted on 12/14/2011 4:20:55 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: traditional1

At the same time they vote.


57 posted on 12/14/2011 4:28:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Digger

I think you are right. We have elected people with a backbone which wants only to please the opposition, not the working and propertied citizens of this country. BUT when they come home, they say they are all of “us”. PHFFRUMPH


58 posted on 12/14/2011 5:39:51 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Jacquerie

OH Jacquerie, I hope a strongman does emerge in this election, but the 2 frontrunners are professional talkers. Neither has given one minute to this country. They have been too busy making money and a name for themselves. They’re the type that will let the “less than themselves” put their lives on the line while they enjoy the limelight and praises of the presstitutes.


59 posted on 12/14/2011 5:50:23 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Annoying Imp

OH YEAH, in Chicago they use that constitutional right all the time. Ask the Daleys, they’ve even invited members of the cemetaries to come an vote.


60 posted on 12/14/2011 5:55:04 AM PST by tillacum
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