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EPA sounds alarm on fracking in Wyoming
CNN Money ^ | December 9,2011 | James O'Toole

Posted on 12/10/2011 6:37:42 AM PST by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk

There is a lot of frakking going on in Shreveport. You can frak all you want.


21 posted on 12/10/2011 8:15:08 AM PST by AceMineral (Some people are too stupid for their own good.)
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To: Hojczyk

The next administration should frack the EPA.


22 posted on 12/10/2011 8:21:27 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: faucetman
Another thing to consider is that as soon as the rock is fractured, the fracking fluid is removed from the well. Environuts seem to think that the fracking fluid is continuously pumped into the ground and that it remains there.
23 posted on 12/10/2011 8:27:22 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: SunTzuWu

Well when it comes to the environment people are easily manipulated the poor science education among the left exacerbates the problem.

the old Penn & Teller video tells the story more effectively than hundred of op eds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZRBJYX__E


24 posted on 12/10/2011 8:37:37 AM PST by Leto (Damn shame Palin didn't run, The Presidency was Her's for the taking)
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To: oldplayer
By my definition, if subterranean water is “thousands of feet” below the surface, it is not “ground water.”

Water that is 2000 feet below the surface in Wyoming (Elevation 5000 feet) will eventually leach its way into surface water from the exposed rocks in Arizona, Utah or New Mexico (elevation 2000 feet)

Of course it could take thousands of years, but eventually it pops out somewhere.

The water leaching out of some of the rocks at the bottom of Zion National Park is rainwater that fell on the ground around the time of Christ. (At least that's what the Park Rangers said).

25 posted on 12/10/2011 8:40:45 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Hojczyk

It doesn’t take much to “alarm” a bunch of pot smoking hippy freaks.


26 posted on 12/10/2011 8:47:49 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: IbJensen

Am thinking what we are seeing with all this crazy super lib stuff from EPA and similar, is because they see the handwriting on the wall and know that next POTUS could rein them back in, so they MUST get in all the far left agenda as possible knowing some of it will stick around no matter what.

Also a distinct probability agencies like EPA see that nobama’s bunch could care less what they do being so focussed on graft and re-election, that these agencies have free rein to do what they have long wanted.


27 posted on 12/10/2011 8:57:51 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: Hojczyk
"We've done extensive testing, the state has done extensive testing, and never have we found the effects of oil and gas in these drinking water wells," Hock said. The EPA, however, is worried that this may change.

The EPA should listen to Mark Twain's advice, "Worry is like making advance payment on something you're not likely to get in the first place."

Of course that assumes the EPA is more worried about pollution than control.

28 posted on 12/10/2011 8:59:18 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: X-spurt
...nobama’s bunch could care less what they do being so focussed on graft and re-election, that these agencies have free rein to do what they have long wanted.

In a nutshell. They're on a frenzied feeding with no schedule for their 'meals'. They are the enemies of an America that deserves better! Next step: revolution by forces of the RIGHT!

29 posted on 12/10/2011 8:59:49 AM PST by IbJensen (Demint for President, Paul for Treasury Secretary, Apaio For AG)
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To: P-Marlowe

Around the coal fields in Eastern Wyoming, the NG is mixed with shallow ground water. Doubt they have to frac, only go down to the coal seam and pump out water and gas.


30 posted on 12/10/2011 9:02:27 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: AceMineral

Holder’s people frackin in Shreeepoot, way too much.


31 posted on 12/10/2011 9:05:24 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: Hojczyk
"At a depth where you would expect to find hydrocarbons, they found hydrocarbons. In drinking wells, they found no impacts due to oil and gas," he said.

Doesn't matter. The purpose is to create headlines like this one.

32 posted on 12/10/2011 9:07:26 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: xzins

Water has been found 3 to six miles below the surface::: http://www2.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF7/725.html


33 posted on 12/10/2011 9:11:06 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: IbJensen

One way or the other we are coming to clean up the mess. Can do the easy way or the hard way, but it will get done.


34 posted on 12/10/2011 9:11:50 AM PST by X-spurt
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To: thackney; NVDave
What say you?
35 posted on 12/10/2011 9:15:17 AM PST by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Chgogal

EPA Claim Fracking Caused Wy. Water Contamination
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818074/posts

Note also the following from the Rig Zone Article linked above:

“The latest test results came from two wells that EPA itself constructed, and which reached to depths of about 775 and 970 feet, deeper than other private water wells in the area. It detected levels of benzene, a carcinogen, that exceeded safe drinking water standards as well as synthetic chemicals—glycols and alcohols—used in hydraulic fracturing fluid.”

They didn’t find those chemicals in people’s water wells. They dug extra deep wells below where people were getting their water and found chemicals at the lower depths, not a health hazaard at the drinking water depth.

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This field is rather unique in that decades ago, they actually did hydraulic fracturing IN the drinking water Aquifer rather than thousands of feet below it.

“The agency also stressed that the findings are unique to Pavillion, where fracturing has taken place both in and below the drinking water aquifer and very close to drinking water wells — conditions that are not common elsewhere in the U.S. The region has been home to oil and gas drilling since the 1950s, and some of the 169 gas production wells in the area were fractured at points just 1,220 feet below the ground.

By contrast, in South Texas, energy companies are extracting natural gas from the Eagle Ford shale formation at depths ranging from 4,000 to 14,000 feet below the surface.”

http://fuelfix.com/blog/2011/12/08/epa-says-hydraulic-fracturing-polluted-groundwater/


36 posted on 12/10/2011 9:29:13 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: org.whodat

And when water is found at those depth, just as there is water in nearly every oil/gas field at greater than drinking water depth, it is brine or salt water, not fresh water.


37 posted on 12/10/2011 9:32:58 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Hojczyk

The very name of this agency, “Environmental Protection Agency” (EPA) leads to these excesses. A perfect environment is one without civilization and to the “Perfect Environmentalist” this is the ideal.

When the EPA got started in 1970, we had recent dealings with dangerous chemical damages like the 1969 Cuyahoga River fire and such. The incentives to have the EPA were self evident in the smog and polluted waters of our land.

What we forget is that no government agency has an off switch. When one problem is brought under control, the imperative is to find something else to justify continuing operations. No one in 1970 could have predicted that in 40 years this same agency would declare carbon dioxide a subject of regulation.


38 posted on 12/10/2011 9:35:12 AM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existance!)
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To: Baynative; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; ...

Thanks Baynative.


39 posted on 12/10/2011 10:27:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: P-Marlowe

Water that is 2000 feet below the surface in Wyoming (Elevation 5000 feet) will eventually leach its way into surface water from the exposed rocks in Arizona, Utah or New Mexico (elevation 2000 feet)

WHAT? Is this what the Park Ranger said or is it from some other source?

Oldplayer


40 posted on 12/10/2011 11:45:05 AM PST by oldplayer
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