Posted on 11/16/2011 4:24:01 AM PST by surroundedbyblue
That’s terrible!
I’m sure the teacher’s union had a hand in ensuring the teacher wasn’t immediately terminated.
youre wrong on all counts. i wont bother with them all, but the biggest 2... first, it is NOT the schools duty to teach god or religion unless youre at a religious school. my kids are catholic, and go to church for their religion. they go to school to learn as much as they can from math english science history etc.
throughout history, opinions from teachers from THEIR outlook has made its way to the students. some parents are mind numbed to it and the kid grows learning what you say is the norm. I take the stand where it is the PARENTS duty to insure the kid has the right outlook and a balance to all equations. blaming the teachers and the system is a cop out. if they are learning how wonderful obama is during math class, then the parents should balance the equation correctly. this is not happening in a great many households. its the schools fault?? i say bullshit... all it takes is one kid in that class to have his or hers facts right, lay out a good analogy so the whole class understands it, and that would shut that teacher up but good.
“...first, it is NOT the schools duty to teach god or religion ...”
Are you not aware of what secular humanism is?
That it IS the equivalent of an atheistic religion, with worship of the state being uppermost? And that HAS been and CONTINUES to be taught for more than 50 years is so called “public schools?”
“they go to school to learn as much as they can from math english science history...”
And do you not realize that WHAT is taught shapes a worldview, and that there is NO way that the teaching of history can be taught and NOT also teach the religion of that school?
Are you really as uninformed as that?
Or are you just disingenuous in your prosetyizing of the socialist state?
if what you say is true, when did it stop? take that date and blame that era. they have not taught what you are soap boxing in the past 40 years that I am aware of. all i can do now is give my kids the balance they need. there is no one on the board more “anti state” than me i can assure you. and with this, if youre also saying there are no good teachers in the public school, right leaning and believe as i do, like any normal mind would, id say your the one with blinders on.
Then you are truly uninformed, and it sounds like you are happy to remain that way.
When did it stop? It has never stopped.
Have you not read “Slouching towards Gomorrah” by Robert Bork?
Or Tomas Sowells book “Inside American Education,” which in part covers “An indictment of the American educational system ...”
Sowells book was written in 2003, “The American educational system, from grade school to grad school, is bankrupt, teachers are incompetent and schools cause social maladjustment, moral confusion and alienation, according to this blistering indictment by Sowell,...”
But you are married to your belief, and I don’t think you are willing to change your mind. See, it is people like you, that will make getting rid of DeathCare impossible to go away. Too many people who have a stake in the system won’t allow it to go.............
Oh I’m quite familiar. Too familiar maybe.
As I mentioned in my earlier posts, the public denigration of FReepers in the name of said “cause” is what I take umbrage with.
You want to debate the “merits” of a public school, fine, do so. But don’t think for one second that any of us are required to sit here and accept the types of abuse tossed about the anti-public school crowd.
You want us to modify our behavior based on your worldview, deny us our freedoms by shaming us into believing that we’re dooming our children to a life of hell. That we will be responsible for the potential demise of America because we didn’t take our kids out of public school.
Calling someone evil and a socialist who hates their children because their kids go to a public school is not only arrogant, it’s downright stupid. Fails at every level of so called discourse or debate. Because, although there are problems at every level in the public school system, it doesn’t make the entire system evil. People are what make the system, and they can be dealt with.
To accuse FReepers of the above without knowing a damn thing about them or, as in my case on previous threads, absolutely dismissing our experiences or constantly moving the bar all in the name of “winning” the debate by dragging the person down to their level is a tactic perfected by one of the students of socialism himself.
It’s nanny statism, only difference is that it’s being practiced from the opposite end of the pendulum.
So, how did trying to reform the Anglian Church from the inside workout, eh? Know your history on that?”
You can take umbridge all you want, take it all personal all you want, but that does not change the fact that the system is socialist, and supporting it is socialist, and there is no middle ground.
It is amazing how people will howl at Ozero, yet will allow the very same policies invade your own children’s minds. The public school system IS nanny state writ large, and trying to pretend it is not leads to moral confusion that does not help this country stay free.
Just amazing.
See, I appreciate how you proved one of the points in my post.
So instead of admitting that folks do stoop to making it personal, you ridicule them for rejecting the personal attacks. Your comments are the actions that provide the concrete proof of which I spoke.
You don’t know a damned thing about me, our son, our school, our teachers, administrators, etc.
Yet, you sit in your ivory tower casting even further aspersions upon those you sit in judgement of.
How “conservative” of you.
Against my better judgement;
As for the Anglican Church reformation question, if memory serves, we wouldn’t be having this conversation if it had “worked out”. If not for the Puritans, who knows where we’d be.
Oh, my, go look in the mirror,...........
I reject your premise...
The anti-public school crowd are nothing but a bunch of foul mouthed bullies intent on berating decent FReepers instead of getting out into the trenches and making a real difference where it really counts.
That you now resort to the age old kindergarten game of rubber and glue [oops! Sorry, you probably wouldn’t know about that now would you?] indicates quite clearly that you are in a complete state of denial about the tactics and behaviors exhibited by your crowd.
Buh-bye! [i spelt reel gud cus uv mi ejukayshan]
I homeschooled my daughter and unitl you have done the same you have no idea what “being in the trenches” means.
But go on, keep doing what you accuse others of doing.
You are blind, and will never see, and your children will be slaves to the state.
Your unwillingness to even acknowledge the main facts of my post speaks for itself.
lol... ya okay man...
Yah, know, I read the post you made yesterday about your wife and kids, the “mop head” thread.
Do you realize that?
and this means what in your eyes? this means i cant give my kids what they need in the world? I still get time with them.
what are you saying now?
I could have posted more than I posted.
Any other implication is in your own mind.
But this is an open forum, you do realize that, yes?
okay, you still instist on talking to me instaed of with me. there for i find myself turned off completely now... have a nice day. go be drunk on self importance with someone else...
Kindness is seldom repaid with kindness from jerks.
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