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Yedlin: Pipeline decision signals U.S. not open for business
Calgary Herald ^ | November 11, 2011 | Deborah Yedlin

Posted on 11/14/2011 7:44:33 AM PST by thackney

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To: F.J. Mitchell

” Face it. The inmates are running this asylum.” Too True !!

OBummer wants us to be a service society , not a manufacturing society. As long as he controlls the power and fuel , we will never return to the manufacturing country we once were .

Bloomburg gives 1 million $$$ to the Sierra Club to fight the coal industry.
OBummer guts the oil production in the Gulf of Mexico
OBummer gives Solyndra 528 million $$$ (government subsidized and guarenteed ~ thus protecting his crony investors) for sun collecters that cost twice (2X) as much as imported collectors, and then wonders why it failed ?

If you really wanted the U.S. to be successful , you’d think he would limit our chief financial rival ( China)access to power/ fuel , while encouraging our own power /fuel developement.
The attitude of the WH is “up-side down”
The attitude of the WH is politics, re-election and ideology over logic and common sense .


21 posted on 11/14/2011 8:25:04 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ( (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11) by GlockThe Vote)
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To: thackney

As best I can tell, there are no pipelines that run through the aquifer where it is more than 50 feet saturated thickness. If my map skills are correct, the pipeline will be running through 600-800 feet of saturated thickness.

Feel free to run the pipeline through our state, but let’s bend it around our state and country’s crucial groundwater.


22 posted on 11/14/2011 8:27:26 AM PST by Husker
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To: Husker
“I’m against running a pipe through one of the largest aquifers in the world that supplies a huge amount of irrigated water. “

Why??

How could a pipeline running on top of the ground possibly threaten a underground water system?

Worst case scenario; if the pipeline had a catastrophic explosion, how would spilled oil on the ground pollute a underground water system?

Our country is clinically insane. We can't make any basic positive economic decisions anymore. We are paralyzed by misinformation and lack of logical decision making

23 posted on 11/14/2011 8:28:34 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: jazusamo
The narcissistic Marxist in the WH found the perfect way

Obama chanelling Sir Winston Churchill

Sir Winston to the war cabinet:

Number one priority is to destroy the Nazi production, refining and distribution of petroleum products.

Then attack manufacturing industries starting with the ball bearing factories.

24 posted on 11/14/2011 8:31:13 AM PST by spokeshave (Cain....100% American, 100% Black and 100% for the Constitution...999 an added benefit.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Where are you getting that the pipeline isn’t going to be buried?


25 posted on 11/14/2011 8:40:19 AM PST by Husker
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To: Husker
As best I can tell, there are no pipelines that run through the aquifer where it is more than 50 feet saturated thickness.

I do not read the map the same way. Nearly all of the Nebraska section is more than 50 feet thick and has multiple liquid petroleum pipelines across it.

The existing pipelines cross through thicker section in Texas and Oklahoma as well.

In addition, can you tell me the concern of the aquifer going deeper while the oil is lighter than water and would float on the top?

26 posted on 11/14/2011 8:42:31 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

The current pipeline runs along the very eastern edge of the aquifer. The biggest problem is the presence of benzene should there be a leak. Here is a peer-reviewed study: http://boldnebraska.org/uploaded/pdf/worst-case-keystone-spill-study-stansburyEmbargoeduntil11amEDTJuly11.pdf

I understand that I’m not going to change your mind and you won’t change mine. What this issue comes down to for Nebraskans is costs vs. risk. For us, we are in favor of the pipeline, but want it to take a different route due to the risks.


27 posted on 11/14/2011 8:55:39 AM PST by Husker
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To: throwback

Most people seem to not get this - the pipeline may be more about increasing Canadian Co oil profits at THE COST OF PRICE INCREASES in 15 midwest states.

http://grassrootsne.com/?p=14125

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/otherviews/117832183.html

http://wyden.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/?id=158ffa9a-6380-4c2a-bbec-180c16839018

http://journalstar.com/news/local/article_b4b866cd-8b1e-56eb-a9d2-84852cfcb402.html

http://grassrootsne.com/?p=4549


28 posted on 11/14/2011 9:10:37 AM PST by pitviper68
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To: Husker
The current pipeline runs along the very eastern edge of the aquifer.

That is not the only pipeline crossing the aquifer carrying petroleum (crude and refined products).

I understand that I’m not going to change your mind and you won’t change mine.

Understood.

29 posted on 11/14/2011 9:46:24 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

So it has come to this.

Canadians lecturing US about free enterprise.


30 posted on 11/14/2011 9:50:26 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: thackney

By damn, run it thru Iowa. We’ll take it.


31 posted on 11/14/2011 11:01:22 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: pitviper68
I read some of the information at the first link. The way it reads to me, TransCanada’s nefarious plot is to find a broader market for it's oil. The result would be that they would have more buyers. More buyers, same amount of product = more pricing power. Excuse me. Is that not the way markets are supposed to work? Plus if it raises prices in the MidWestern states, is it not just as likely that it lowers them elsewhere. It's a global market. You pour more oil into it from anywhere, prices should tend to lower if the markets are free. Also, it's curious that the Republican Governor and Senator from Nebraska are opposed, but both heavily support ethanol. If this pipeline would actually increase the price of gasoline, they should be thrilled with the pipeline since it pumps up the farm lobby by enabling them to follow the increasing price of gasoline with ethanol just behind at its obligatory 10 cent discount of course. Speaking of ethanol and market manipulation...
32 posted on 11/14/2011 11:49:27 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Our most dangerous foe is the most powerful man in the country............. World.


33 posted on 11/15/2011 8:45:36 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Cain is able to deliver.)
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