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As Gingrich gains and Cain fades, Romney steps up his game in Iowa
The Daily Caller ^ | 11/08/2011 | Will Rahn

Posted on 11/08/2011 8:02:54 AM PST by martosko

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To: yldstrk

Thanks for the spelling lesson: How about this one Pharasaical. Look it up!!


61 posted on 11/08/2011 9:18:20 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

Ok you are talking about the Pharisees, and if it floats yoru boat to decree that I can’t identify evil until I am perfect, then no one can identify evil.

There is only One perfect One, and I am not it. Yes, I have a log in my eye.

Still, we are talking about (let’s get back to what I was criticizing) adultery, lying, treacherous treatment of the wife of his youth, divorce which God hates. So I am a Pharisee, in your eyes, because I criticize such behavior. Fine. I suppose you ascribe to “If it feels good do it”?


62 posted on 11/08/2011 9:22:32 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
I suppose you ascribe to “If it feels good do it”?

You just can't help it can you! I've been happily married for 42 yrs and have never cheated on my wife. Adultry is wrong, divorce is bad,neither are unforgivable. We are suppose to hate the sin and love "And Forgive" the sinner. No one other than the almighty can peer into the soul of another and (DEIGN) to know what lies therein!!

63 posted on 11/08/2011 9:30:28 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

Yeah, well, you are right, they are forgivable, IF the perpetrator repents, but that is between him and God and him and the people he hurt.

As for your fidelity, wish there were more like you. there would be fewer hurting children.


64 posted on 11/08/2011 9:34:25 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
Yeah, well, you are right, they are forgivable

I have obtained a first on FR.....Thanks for the back and forth.....you did win the spelling contest however!!!!LOL

65 posted on 11/08/2011 9:38:10 AM PST by ontap
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To: samtheman

I disagree. Gingrich has helped Cain. He gave him a free education with the debate last week, and he has been the only one of the candidates to purposely refrain from attacking other R’s.

To come to his defense however, is to become an accomplice after the fact should any of the allegations be proven true. In short, Gingrich has no first hand knowledge of anything that happened, and if he defends Cain, then if they can take Cain down, they get a two-fer and take Gingrich with him. Should that happen, we would get Romney by default.

By staying out of the fray, Gingrich can still be supportive of Cain without being brought down by the attacks himself. Should the attacks succeed, Gingrich wins as the anti-Romney. Should the attacks fail, he has not only avoided hurting Cain, he actually helped him and for that he should get our gratitude.

Gingrich/Palin 12


66 posted on 11/08/2011 9:58:22 AM PST by RainMan
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To: dragonblustar

that picture is going to haunt me tonight in my dreams. Love it.


67 posted on 11/08/2011 11:33:13 AM PST by libdestroyer
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To: martosko

Is Newt this cycle’s McCain? Counted out as dead, no staff, no money, then slowly rising to the top?


68 posted on 11/08/2011 11:37:30 AM PST by magritte
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To: yldstrk

There’s also something in the Bible about “bearing false witness” and you might want to wait for the facts before you condemn a man. Piling on isn’t something Christians do.


69 posted on 11/08/2011 12:30:47 PM PST by libdestroyer
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To: yldstrk

Just be careful who you condemn. That’s all I’m saying... from one Christian to another.


70 posted on 11/08/2011 12:30:50 PM PST by libdestroyer
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

How exactly (aside from “protecting” the border) does Perry have foreign affairs experience? He hasn’t dealt with the Russians, Chinese, Middle East etc...

IT DOESN’T MATTER because presidents have military advisers.
that’s a big reason why candidates often change their positions on foreign affairs once they are in office and they get “filled-in” on the facts.


71 posted on 11/08/2011 12:36:56 PM PST by libdestroyer
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To: LS

“The loser here is the Mittster”

The Loser List is far longer than that :)
We’ll just have to wait and see if Cain rides this out. Hate to add him to the list :(


72 posted on 11/08/2011 12:37:02 PM PST by libdestroyer
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To: Sacajaweau

Have been comparing Newt vs Cain on tax plans and like Newt’s 100% better. He really needs to get the word out on this...JOBS AND PROSPERITY PLAN: TAX SIMPLIFICATION WITH AN OPTIONAL FLAT TAX

My legislation will also include an optional flat tax of 15% or less. All tax filers would be given the option to pay their income taxes subject to current income tax provisions or to pay under a lower single rate of taxation with limited deductions. A revenue neutral flat tax reform would save hundreds of billions of dollars in compliance costs each year and would eliminate the need for taxes on savings, dividends, and capital gains.

This optional flat tax system will create a new personal deduction of $12,000 for every American. This deduction is well above the current poverty level, ensuring that this new system does not unfairly target the poor. The current $1,000 tax credit for each child aged sixteen or younger would also apply, as would the current earned income tax credit (EITC).

An optional flat tax reform will be simple: tax returns can be done on one sheet of paper. Subtract from income a standard deduction and deductions for charity and home ownership, multiply the result by the fixed single rate of taxation of at most 15%, and the process is over.

Gone will be the stressful hours spent figuring out whether your military service or marital status will adversely affect your return. No more headaches trying to determine where estimated tax payments go. Tax preparation fees could be money spent on something more rewarding.

Such an optional flat tax system would create a new standard deduction, which would be above the established poverty level, meaning an optional flat tax would not unfairly target the poor.

An optional flat tax would eliminate the Alternative Minimum Tax. And if a person had twice as much income as another, he or she would be taxed twice as much. Furthermore, a single rate tax structure would eliminate taxes on savings, capital gains, and dividends. Saving would increase and businesses would expand to create new jobs.

This concept of an optional flat tax would give American taxpayers an opportunity to choose simplicity versus complexity and a single rate over a lot of deductions.

Because the flat tax is optional, it does not raise taxes on a single person or unfairly impact seniors, lower income workers, or the poor.


73 posted on 11/08/2011 12:48:17 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: libdestroyer

She gave the facts herself.......her ‘aunt” 20 years younger than her uncle, adultery as the start of the “marriage”, her real aunt cast aside, then she says “affairs born of bad marriages”. Bah!


74 posted on 11/08/2011 3:28:34 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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