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PJM Sources Report Details of Alleged Cain Incident
PJMedia ^ | November 3, 2011 | Richard Pollock

Posted on 11/03/2011 10:04:50 AM PDT by bbernard

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To: CajunConservative
The woman said they took a taxi. I was really looking for some way to explain why Cain would bring the woman to his place.
So far no luck, but I'll keep trying. :)
561 posted on 11/03/2011 3:46:27 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: mockingbyrd
But it is a case where the woman, or man, cannot freely give consent

Really?

Are you serious?

Is it your view that all sexual relationships at work (of which there are many) are nonconsensual?

Do you believe subordinate women ever seduce higher-status men? When they do, are those relationships consensual?

This feminist garbage doesn't belong here. In.my.opinion.

562 posted on 11/03/2011 3:46:42 PM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: Jim Noble
I agree. Before all of this PC nonsense, men and women met at work, sometimes dated and sometimes married. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

This current policy and attitude is ridiculous.

563 posted on 11/03/2011 3:52:43 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Reagan Man

WE can tie it to Perry campaign. It is pretty obvious.


564 posted on 11/03/2011 4:15:34 PM PDT by chilepup
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To: Reagan Man
My candidate may be down, but he's not out. 60 days is an eternity in politics.

IF, your guy ever does come up to the lead, just think of the treatment he'll get.

Most honest folks would be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt just like Cain should be receiving and come to his defense....but then again, maybe not.

565 posted on 11/03/2011 4:17:00 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: novemberslady
The woman said they took a taxi.

She can say whatever she want to say, doesn't make it true.

We all know women have NEVER lied in cases like this, don't we.

566 posted on 11/03/2011 4:20:03 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: chilepup
>>>>>>WE can tie it to Perry campaign. It is pretty obvious.

Cain and Block have no proof. Just a bunch of whiny accusations. Since you're so confident, lets see your proof, bucko.

567 posted on 11/03/2011 4:26:31 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Las Vegas Ron
We all know women have NEVER lied in cases like this, don't we.

Thank goodness that married men who take drunken young women home with them always tell the truth.
LOL
568 posted on 11/03/2011 4:29:04 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Most honest folks don't run around making scurrilous claims against other honest folks. Now do they? Course not.

Take it up with Cain and Block.

569 posted on 11/03/2011 4:31:02 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: LibertyRocks

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Neither source has direct knowledge of what occurred at Mr. Cain’s residence, but several days after the alleged incident, the male source witnessed the woman returning to her workplace “distraught.” “She was very upset.”

One source told PJ Media: “Some people didn’t believe [the accuser]” at the time she made the allegation. The female source recalls the woman continued working at the NRA for several weeks after the encounter; the male source recalls the woman continued working there for a few months.>

Why bother to continue working there? She got her payoff.


570 posted on 11/03/2011 4:34:45 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: relictele

She wanted Herman Cain to bust up an old chiffarobe.


571 posted on 11/03/2011 4:35:42 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Reagan Man

Um, I was talking about here on FR.


572 posted on 11/03/2011 4:40:57 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: novemberslady
Thank goodness that married men who take drunken young women home with them always tell the truth. LOL

Not talking about drunken men in general, we're talking about Cain.

Of course you conveniently omit that and the fact you have zero proof that Cain did it.

Nice deflection.

573 posted on 11/03/2011 4:44:00 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Tublecane
I still think you’re unaware that it’s a nonsequitor, and bring up rape not because both situations involve hurt families but because you think what Cain did is rape-esque.

First, you won. I don't know your lawyer-like words, and I'm too emotionally sunk today to go look up your fancy words. So yea, Mr. Smart Person, you've beat me down today in this message board thread.

I'm just a mom and a woman who identifies with these women who are getting drug through the mud for whatever they had to deal with in their past.

Hope you feel better now. You're smarter than I am.

Secondly, from anything I've seen, no one, including myself, has said what Mr. Cain did was rape. I know of no rape case. This appears to be something between a work place sexual annoyance to sexual advances up to anywhere other from that. We don't know, and I have NOT said Mr. Cain brutally committed an act of rape.

Finally, I should be able to speak of my own situation as a mother, relating to the parent's involvement in the linked article of this thread. This was a young woman who needed her parents, and when I spoke of when my own daughter needed me, another poster told me that if my daughter needed me when she was raped, that my daughter was a wimp.

Now I really hope that you do not also believe that women and girls should take being raped 'like a man' or even that they should just put up... or not put up... and then shut up, depending on how serious, flippant, or just "socially icky" the man may be. I also hope you can give me the liberty of relating to the parental involvement indicated in the linked article, my ability to see a young lady there who needed HER parents just as our daughter needed us during a bad ordeal in her life.

There are two different stories here, yes, but a girl needing her parents to help her during a time such as EITHER of us had is something foundational to both of us, and I understand and empathize with that family in that respect.

So, you are incorrect that I believe this is rape or even rape-esque, but you are also incorrect if you don't think a parent can not relate to the horror a family has to go through when a daughter is violated as is indicated in this linked article here, be it actual rape like MY daughter lived through or waking up in your bosses' bed (Mr. Cain) like the girl in this linked article did.

Either scenario would be horrifying for a parent.

And as for what I hope in sharing my thoughts and vocalizing what I'm sure other women and families are feeling right now, I just wish our conservative pundits and leaders, etc. would take more care not to bash and diminish the women of our country who only want to be allowed to feel safe and that they stand as a beacon for all of us who want to feel confident that we still have a country who really does care that women, men, and children alike are not violated in the work place or anywhere else in our daily life events.

574 posted on 11/03/2011 4:48:09 PM PDT by casinva
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To: Las Vegas Ron
>>>>>>Um, I was talking about here on FR.

Where have you been lately? LOL Perry has been trashed non-stop on FR from the first day he announced back in August.

575 posted on 11/03/2011 4:48:17 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Glad you have all the facts.

Like I said married men who take drunken women home always tell the truth.
At least as often as the women in these situations have.
576 posted on 11/03/2011 4:54:20 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Reagan Man
Where have you been lately? LOL Perry has been trashed non-stop on FR from the first day he announced back in August.

Not by me.

I was including everyone involved in the smearing that has been going on this cycle.

The dems don't appear to have a thing to worry about, we seem to be doing there job just fine.

No I know primaries can get testy and just hope that in the end we can unite behind someone to beat the real enemy, obama.

577 posted on 11/03/2011 4:59:33 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: novemberslady
Glad you have all the facts.

I don't have all of the facts, and neither do you.

That is my point.

Like I said married men who take drunken women home always tell the truth. At least as often as the women in these situations have.

I'm not arguing that fact, I'm arguing whether or not Cain did it.

Right now it is nothing more than he said she said with no corroboration.

Even the PJM media modified their own story today to say they had no corroboration, just allegations.

578 posted on 11/03/2011 5:03:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: novemberslady
Oops, meant to italicize this to quote your post:

Like I said married men who take drunken women home always tell the truth. At least as often as the women in these situations have.

579 posted on 11/03/2011 5:05:10 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Congrats.

Whoever is the last Republican standing will get my vote against Obama. As long as its not Romney (or Paul). That doesn't mean I'm going to be satisfied with my vote, however.

Btw, if you compare the attacks on the candidates on this forum, the Texas Governor wins hands down.

580 posted on 11/03/2011 5:12:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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