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Is Rick Perry still a top-tier presidential candidate?
CSMonitor.com ^ | 10/31/11 | Amanda Paulson

Posted on 10/31/2011 12:55:43 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Eska

Absolutely! The 2nd amendment is a huge draw for Perry as far as I’m concerned.


21 posted on 10/31/2011 3:51:20 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kartographer
Of course he is. $17m+ in fundraising guarantees it until actual votes are cast.

Those who think otherwise are wishful thinkers.

Now Perry's only there to blunt Cain? How's that work when Cain's only risen because Perry stumbled? Good grief, two months ago people here said Perry was only there to blunt the inevitable Palin, just as they said about Bachmann.

There as much reason, or more, to think Cain is there to blunt others to favor Romney.

It's all meaningless. Romney's the odds on favorite. He'll fail in the general and Obama will be reelected. If Cain fumbles his way into the nomination, he'll fail. Ditto Perry. 2012 is shaping up to be another GOP give away.

22 posted on 10/31/2011 3:53:22 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: Eska
After seeing Perry on Chris Wallace

People still watch television for information?

The news and political shows are all a concocted, rehearsed and choreographed play for an audience of uninformed couch hounds, who then parrot what they heard on TaaVaa to others.

It's why they hire giggling beauty models with caked on makeup to tell ya what to think.

To he honest, the only thing TaaVaaa is still good for, are live video events, but even then they are screened and censored.

23 posted on 10/31/2011 4:12:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I suppose that you listen to the short wave.


24 posted on 10/31/2011 7:15:12 PM PDT by Eska
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To: Kartographer

Perry is a credible candidate. He has done some good things in Texas, but there is always the 2000 pound taco in the room that nobody wants to talk about. Also he’s apparently not a good debater, which is about as relevent as his skill at playing Halo for being an effective president. All in all I’d take him over Romney for sure and most of the rest of the current crop.


25 posted on 10/31/2011 7:26:19 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Go Steelers (what's the baseball team called again?))
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To: Eska

Interesting question. Not much shortwave, but I do occasionally listen to HF, UHF, VHF and AM radio, but mostly get news via the Internet, from sites I choose. The television here is off probably 98 percent of the time, as we have found it’s a wasteland of controlled propaganda, with programing fit for those drooling in cups.


26 posted on 10/31/2011 7:28:54 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Ya know, I live along the Yukon River, pretty rural; don't worry about much nowadays; listen to whatever I please. fter I left the lower 48, alot that bothered me ceased to upset me so.

Seriously, I have been on FR since 1996, also like some off the net; American Thinker of late.

27 posted on 10/31/2011 7:43:44 PM PDT by Eska
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To: Eska

That would be a good place for an HF (high frequency) radio, mostly part of the amateur radio bands. It can be entertaining, informative, and very interesting at times. Lots of patriots out there speaking their minds.

I bet living on the Yukon is nice, when the weather isn’t too bad.

I’m not familiar with American Thinker BTW.


28 posted on 10/31/2011 8:28:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: af_vet_rr

Those are frankly stupid arguments. He made fun of the birther issue, he didn’t “play games”, and it isn’t an issue in this campaign. His campaign didn’t play games on the debates, they made a serious and factual statement that the debates are largely damaging to the republicans. We’ve all said that after each debate, and we’ve all been wondering why the candidates put up with so many debates run by media that wants to re-elect Obama.

And again, debates are not an issue in this campaign.

Perry has a solid record of conservative achievement. He doesn’t just talk the talk, he has walked the walk. He has passed multiple pieces of pro-life legislation. He championed tort reform and enacted it in his state. He has passed solid pro-gun, pro-2nd-amendment legislation. He held the line on taxes, he has achieved solid pro-growth results.

He has stood up to federal overreach, even rejecting federal dollars when he found them too restrictive or manipulative. He defunded Planned Parenthood. He dedicated hundreds of millions of dollars to secure our borders; he has imprisoned illegals, and sued the federal government to pay for it and deport them. He directly confronted Obama IN PERSON.

He has fought against the EPA. He has fought against federal interference in state prerogatives like education. He is a strong supporter of homeschooling and school choice.

On issue after issue, Perry is not only talking the talk of a conservative, he has conservative results that prove he is the real deal. The list of things conservatives complain about over a 11-year governor career shows how conservative he is, in it’s brevity. What are there, 3 issues, maybe 4? And of those, half never took effect.


29 posted on 11/01/2011 12:09:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Kartographer
So why can't he make headway in the polls?

Whether in a debate or in a staged interview, Rico Perry just can't hide the facts that he has a turnip-level IQ, is more corrupt than Obama, and more anti-American than George Lopez.

Other than that, he's probably well liked by a whole herd of stump-broke cattle.

30 posted on 11/01/2011 12:22:11 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Those are frankly stupid arguments. He made fun of the birther issue, he didn’t “play games”, and it isn’t an issue in this campaign.

I'm not a birther, not even close, but I do know it's not wise for candidates to make fun of them or their issues. They are very serious about it and while Perry eventually came out and stated that he believed Obama was qualified to be President, there was a few days where he got birthers excited that he was one of them and where the media had a chance to portray many on the right as birthers. It reminds me of when he made a comment about secession at a Tea Party rally and then turned around and said he would never support secession and would oppose it.

we’ve all been wondering why the candidates put up with so many debates run by media that wants to re-elect Obama.

The RCN setup these debates. Bitch about the media all you want, but it's the RNC that laid the groundwork for them and so far nobody is trying to hold the RNC accountable.

There is a solution though: A Tea Party group in Texas has offered a moderator-free one-on-one debate where candidates don't have to sum up issues in 60 second soundbites or attack each other. This was offered to the four front runners. Cain and Gingrich are participating this coming Saturday.

Romney and Perry have so far turned them down.
31 posted on 11/01/2011 2:15:25 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Maybe you are right, although I read the Parade magazine article and laughed at his birther comments — I never thought it meant he was one.

The Cain-Gingrich debate will be interesting. It’s hard to see how you’d do that with 4 candidates, and I’m not sure I’d want to engage in a series of one-on-one debates with each other candidate, unless I was the really good debater of the bunch. Which II am certain Perry would not be.


32 posted on 11/01/2011 2:30:50 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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The Cain-Gingrich debate will be interesting. It’s hard to see how you’d do that with 4 candidates, and I’m not sure I’d want to engage in a series of one-on-one debates with each other candidate, unless I was the really good debater of the bunch. Which II am certain Perry would not be.

The debates would only be one-on-one. Cain and Gingrich accepted first, they would debate each other. If Romney and Perry would accept, they would debate each other. The first round of debates would cover three issues - healthcare/Obama care, Social Security, and I forgot the other one - another domestic issue, maybe energy. The next round of debates would cover three other issues - probably national security-related, and they would change up the opponents - Perry-Gingrich, Cain-Romney, etc.

Romney and Perry apparently decided they'd rather just do the gotcha debates.
33 posted on 11/01/2011 2:42:29 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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