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1 posted on 10/31/2011 8:25:44 AM PDT by Perdogg
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Take a look around here. Even Perry supporters who are normally anti Cain recognize a slime job when they see one.

This is not going to help your candidate. It merely reminds us why the Party Establishment, in both parties, are such useless scum.


99 posted on 10/31/2011 9:33:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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On one side (Politico) you have this:
We have a report where we know nothing about the accusers and the specifics of the accusations from a dozen years ago.

They, at this point, are simply reported very vaguely by Politico: “episodes that left the women upset and offended” and “physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable," and that, "they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.”

We have allegation of payoff in the five figure range, but again, nothing specific. IMHO, until the accusers come up with something much more specific, like names, dates and places, it is going to continue to be nothing more than an attemted smear campaign from my perspecitve.

Maybe Politico has more...time will tell, but at this point, it's not out there.


...and then, on the other side (Herman Cain's) you have this:
Ron Magruder, Denise Marie Fugo and Joseph Fassler, the chair, vice chair and immediate past chairman of the National Restaurant Association board of directors through the entire time of Cain’s position at the Restruant Association, said they hadn’t heard about any complaints regarding Cain making unwanted advances.

“I have never heard that. It would be news to me,” said Fugo, who runs a Cleveland, Ohio, catering company, adding such behavior would be totally out of character for the Cain she knew. “He’s very gracious.”

Fassler, who helped bring Cain on board as CEO of the restaurant association, said that any inappropriate behavior was not brought to his attention and that he would be upset to learn it had gone on and he was not made aware of it.

“That’s a shock to me,” Fassler said. “As an officer during all of Herman’s years there as a paid executive… none of that stuff ever surfaced to me. Nobody ever called me, complained about this, nor did I ever hear that from Peter Kilgore, nor did I ever hear that from Herman Cain.”

Fassler — who ran a Phoenix food-service company and finished his term as chairman the month before Cain’s June 1999 departure but remained on the board’s executive committee — described Cain as treating men and women identically and asserted it was “not within his character” to make unwanted advances. “It’s not what I know of him,” Fassler said.

Much like Fassler, almost all board members remember Cain fondly and say he left on good terms.

Cain was “extremely professional” and “fair” to female staffers at the restaurant association, recalled Lee Ellen Hayes, who said she “worked fairly closely with” Cain in the late 1990s, when she was an executive at the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, a Chicago-based offshoot of the group.

Cain’s treatment of women was “the same as his treatment of men. Herman treated everyone great,” said Mary Ann Cricchio, who was elected to the board of the restaurant group in 1998. She said Cain left such a good impression on the organization that when he spoke at a group event in January of this year, as he was considering a presidential bid, “he had unanimous support in the room.”


Very specific denials and testinomies to Cain's professionalism and behavior from very specific people over very specific time frames which would have covered the events in question.

So, at this pont, who you gonna believe?

They are willing to do anything to try and stop Herman Cain. The RINOs first, and then the libs.

This is obviously not the DNC IMHO...too early...this is the work of RINOs who are scared of Cain and what he represents.

Until they have solid evidence that indicates wrong doing...and wrong doing from my own perspective...not something like him innocently asking a co-worker if she was married and how her family is doing, then I am backing Cain to the hilt on this smear attempt.

Go Herman go! They are going to try anything to take you down, but just on keeping on and espousing all-American, conservative constitutional principle and we will have you back.

113 posted on 10/31/2011 9:47:03 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Is it really that difficult for them to believe there’s an honest and wholesome American running for POTUS?


129 posted on 10/31/2011 10:15:59 AM PDT by Amigo04
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132 posted on 10/31/2011 10:35:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Perdogg

So let me see if I have this point about Cain that disqualifies him as President.

He allegedly harassed 2 women?

0bama has admittedly taken and perhaps even selling drugs including cocaine.

The liberal drug taker isn’t an issue but the so-called conservative harraser is not to be allowed consideration as President.

All this fits a fine logical path, but only in the minds of the hyper liberal red media.

They (the press) haven’t even looked at his college records but they are already investigating Cain along with every scintilla of accusations going back 20 years.

America needs to revolt against the press and they had better do it soon or else the political-media empire of the Left will change this country for ever.


139 posted on 10/31/2011 10:53:10 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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My husband is VP of operations for a small manufacturing company. It can get very loud in the plant. He needed to talk to an employee so he put his hand on the shoulder of the employee to get his attention over the noise of 200+ machines. The employee is a 60+ year-old white male who then went to HR and filed a sexual harassment claim against my husband. We have become a country of babies.


154 posted on 10/31/2011 11:38:46 AM PDT by DukeBillie
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To: Perdogg

Ed Schultz (msnbc) says Cain needs to answer questions. He then said that Cain is only trying to generate sympathy by answering questions.


211 posted on 10/31/2011 5:17:14 PM PDT by chessplayer
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