Posted on 10/16/2011 5:07:27 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
Morning AB,All .
For the first Sunday in several weeks now I am home and will get to join on as well as read the wisdom of the thread posters as I watch the Sunday talk shows.
As always, AB, thank you for doing this thread, it is most appreciated.
Weather is beautiful here in the swamps. Husband and I a bit under the weather, no matter its beauty. Husband had a flu shot last week, I visited granddaughter. Somehow we both have stuffed up chest, coughing
.colds, in short.
.
But so it is and time will go on.
Got a Herman Cain story, with a moral. For daughter does not think she should have to pay taxes and under Cain’s 9-9-9 plan she will have to. Assuming a sales tax but she barks that she does not like Cain and she will not vote for him.
Yeah, she’ll have to pay some federal taxes under a Cain plan, assuming she buys anything beyond foodstuffs, which will not likely be subject to the federal sales tax.
Now just why, and remember this is my daughter, who hardly works but whose husband works, mostly under the table as construction guys do-but just why shouldn’t she pay federal taxes?. They don’t make enough money to pay federal income taxes, at least as the gubmint knows of. Although I caution don’t quote me as I have no idea how they do their taxes except she almost always gets a refund. By the time they deduct the kid and the standard deduct and the haphazard way son in law works, I doubt they’re paying much of anything.
Is not her family allowed to sleep at night knowing they are safe in a country with a military that protects it?
Trust that I’m not going to argue with her but tween you and I, she’s self-righteous, declares she’s too poor to pay taxes, which is true, mostly because they work when the rent is due, buy cars with 200K miles on it, run them into the ground then go find another wreck. They don’t have much of nothing, not cable, they use rabbit ears. Granddaughter complains that she can’t watch cable TV as her parents didn’t pay the bill.
Still, they seem happy, they do love their daughter and are good parents .I dunno, guys, I’d never have lived like them but they get by, daughter is married to baby-daddy, granddaughter is happy child spoiled by her grandparents who live at the shore and give her exposure to a steadier kind of life when possible..
But she says she shouldn’t pay federal taxes and I suspect daughter is not alone. I know a lot of young people who live like her, hand to mouth, many in husband’s formerly well-to-do family. And they don’t like this crazy idea that they should pay federal taxes.
Thus if nothing else, this Cain proposal should have American looking at its kids and ponder just WHO is paying the taxes and maybe those who think it an insult that they should pay should have to explain why.
Just some thoughts, I got more.
because in order to calculate an INCOME tax, you have to define and monitor expenses, but a RECEIPTS tax comes right from the cash register.
This might sound like a bid to pick winners and losers, but as my tag line used to say, "The only Fair Tax is the Tax that taxes you and not me."
For now AB, I can’t agree with your more. I too will also support Romney if need be, although not happily.
And hope that the GOP doesn’t do this again. I’ve got a local GOP story that will enrage you for the Blue Bloods NEVER give up.
Feinstein switched parties? Who knew? lol
RomneyBOT Chris Wallace, fresh with orders
from Mitt Romney, opens and lies.
“Mitt Romney holds steady” the RomneyBOT proclaims falsely
as Milt tanks to third or fourth.
Wallace then calls House Majority Leader Eric Cantor
a “villian”.
FOX NEWS in the BAG for Obama, Soros and Romney.
Ugh. David Gregory. Pleh. Pleh. Pleh.
“It’s indisputable.”
Will be interesting to hear John Lewis’ take on those loony tune, Marxist robots, or to quote Dennis Miller, “misfit toys”(love it)in Atlanta!...
Chris Wallace purports small businesses are NOT involved
in these DNC/Obama/Marxist redistribution-"taxes".
Eric Cantor corrects him.
Instead of responding to a single thing, Wallace has
a "gotcha" moment with slides prepared by Obama
vs the DNC.
Eric Cantor corrects him, urges Obama to "stop the campaigning".
Hocus Pocus Wallace claims Obama is making almost
2 million jobs a year and Wallace dares to purport that the
Repubs have no plan. When corrected,
Wallace goes into his usual interrupt mode.
To the facts that Cantor puts out,
Wallace points to smoke and mirrors.
Eric Cantor - 1 Wallace - 0
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain
Host shows he has all the Democrat talking points, but has done no research or seem to understand simple economics
You and I are on the same page right now. As much as I like Cain I’m not there yet. To be honest, I am unsure how his 9-9-9 plan would pass congress in the first place and I’m still not convinced the Fair Tax is the best tax plan for the country.
I do know Dr. Art Laffer is now behind Cain and that sways me to reconsider the 9-9-9 tax plan.
I still like the Flat Tax plan Steve Forbes supported as well as the late Milton Friedman. Laffer did too until now so his change to support is monumental to me.
I continue to like all the other candidates as well so I’m content to wait awhile longer and let the field work itself out for now. I realize Krauthammer, Ann Coulter and William Kristol are following the advice of William Buckley in nominating the most conservative person ‘who can win’ just as liberals would nominate on similar standards. But were that always true for elections within both parties we would never have gotten 0bama in the first place.
Good catch.
I do a Bing search for “sunday tv news shows” and pick the first one that comes up. This week it was CBS’s main news web site . It still says Feinstein is an ‘R’!
Bill Kristol to a NY Time Reporter telling him how the GOP Establishment plans to deal with the Tea party mutiny
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2792217/posts?page=3
Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended [the more radical Michele] Bachmanns brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutiny.
This election is not about 999, or any other single issue, it is or should be completely first and foremost about ridding the country of the blight in the WH.
Policies can be adapted and changed and on balance each and every Rep candidate is light years better then what we now have.
Jobs 1&2 next year is to elect a Republican to the WH and gain control of the Senate. After that part is done we can all discuss the best way to advance the best agenda for America.
Failing to obtain either one of these objectives will leave us where we are today with no hope of improvement for another long 4 years.
Yeah, David Gregory gets punk’d trying to get Cain make a mistake on foreign policy and Cain has to explain what it takes to get all the information to make an informed decision.
Why Pawlenty?
Bill Kristol to a NY Time Reporter telling him how the GOP Establishment plans to deal with the Tea party mutiny
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2792217/posts?page=3
Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended [the more radical Michele] Bachmanns brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutin
For the first time in the history of man I’m not totally on board with bray because I have a lot of misgivings about Cain.
I don’t intend to argue about it here because I reached emotional exhaustion arguing about it yesterday and, in doing so, discovered a really dark side on Free Republic.
I was all out for Sarah Palin. I planned all kinds of little pipe dreams, I would work for her local campaign, I would give what I could, I would go to DC for the inaurgeration humming ‘North to Alaska.’
Then I switched to Perry. I’m a Texan. I know him pretty well and I like him a lot.
I also liked Cain, but his weird and inexlicable statements about Perry turned me off. Something’s going on and I’m not sure what. Was he pimping for Romney? Maybe at first. Or does he now think he’s got it and Perry is his main competition.
Whatever.
I feel uneasy about the man and uncertain about how he would do in the general. I’m taping Meet the Press this morning to see how he does. Maybe he’ll win me over. I doubt it.
I still say this is all Wallass doing his job app. for the real DBM. He has to be unhappy at FNC and wants to get on a true DBM net like his ol’ man.
For your consideration.
Maybe the “Romney Pimp”, to use your phrase, is Perry.
Who got in the race last after it was clear Romney was not going to get any appreciable support from social conservatives?
Who did the GOP Establishment push into the race after it seem Tea Party heroine Bachmann was going to upset Romneys ride to the nomination?
Who does the GOP Establishment see as their back up card if Romney fails?
Who has long standing intimate ties with the Liberal wing of the GOP Establishment?
Bill Kristol to a NY Time Reporter telling him how the GOP Establishment plans to deal with the Tea party mutiny
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2792217/posts?page=3
Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended [the more radical Michele] Bachmanns brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mut
Part of what Cain had to explain to MEET THE PRESS was the hidden/embedded taxes, and that we already have state taxes on top of the current Federal tax structure.
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