Posted on 09/30/2011 12:35:26 AM PDT by Yosemitest
Rush ... I'm one of those people. There's no way in hell I can compromise my values.
Rush, I can't support Romney, Perry, Ron Paul, or Jon Huntsman. They're just too liberal or "Establishment Republican" types for me to support.
As long as the "Establishment Republicans" keep telling us to vote for the lesser of two evils and vote RINO, they'll lose, because the base won't buy that crap amy more.
The "Establishment Republicans" taught us well ... that
You said in an earlier article titled On Texas and Presidential Politics about "illegal immigration" and "Perry's in-state tuition business" :
Both of these criticisms are, at best, misplaced; at worst, they are just disingenuous.
At any rate, they are easily answerable.
Lets begin with the argument against purism. To this line, two replies are in the coming.
As for the second objection against the Tea Partiers rejection of those Republican candidates who eschew his values and convictions,
it can be dispensed with just as effortlessly as the first.
Every election seasonand at no time more so than this past seasonRepublicans pledge to reform Washington, trim down the federal government, and so forth.
Once, however, they get elected and they conduct themselves with none of the confidence and enthusiasm with which they expressed themselves on the campaign trail,
those who placed them in office are treated to one lecture after the other on the need for compromise and patience.
Well, when the Tea Partiers impatience with establishment Republican candidates intimates a Democratic victory,
he can use this same line of reasoning against his Republican critics.
My dislike for the Democratic Party is second to none, he can insist.
But in order to advance in the long run my conservative or Constitutionalist values, it may be necessary to compromise some in the short term.
For example,
I know that the establishment doesn’t care for the constitution one twit, but I thought Rubio wasn’t eligible in terms of having both parents being Americans at the time he was born?
If Rubio says he's not ready then by Rush's own statements and logic he should wait 'till he is. I think Rubio is a smart cookie and knows that he could win this so why not get in? It's not because he doesn't think he can win.
The Democrats have a better sense of geography than most Americans.
The Mombasa General Hospital is in a suburb of Connecticut.
Rush is right about the Establishment. It didn’t disappear in 1964. It had to remain back stage while Nixon was in office, but then when he
appointed Jerry Ford and the Ford appointed Rockefeller. It was right there again. Reagan then won despite them.although he had to take George H.W. Bush as a kind of Jerry Ford substitute. Good ole JERRY never forgave Reagan for displacing him, although we didn’t know that until Ford died that he was so bitter. Reagan of course drove Carter insane. But the surest sign of the continuing power of the Establishment is that Kissinger is still taken seriously. Which is why George Bush’s foreign policy was so odd. The mess ins Iraq put the “Realists” back in charge, so that when he said things such as “Islamic Fascism, he was forced to get back in line. Apart from his occasional rebellion, Bush was an Establishmentarian, with his domestic policies.
That definition of natural citizen seems to stretch the Founders’ intentions. Their intent was to minimize the ability to defeat the United States from the inside and considering kids who are the product of one parent being American or allowing them to be born outside the US seems to work against the intent.
Clearly, says this respected source, what the Founders sought to avoid was foreign intrigue, or intriguers, becoming president. Wise Founders. (Too bad they didn't also say "Marxists need not apply.")
The Guide cites the estimable John Jay, our first Chief Justice, who during the Constitutional Convention wrote to George Washington in 1787 to urge that "a strong check [be included] to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen." (Don't you love how Jay capitalizes Citizen?)
Do you have to be born within the territorial limits of the United States to be such a citizen? No, said the Founders. The Heritage Foundation's Guide shows how the First Congress in 1790 provided that "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born." This was our first naturalization statute (1 Stat. 104). This Congress contained many Members, notably James Madison himself, who had just framed the Constitution in Philadelphia.
To provide a further check on foreign intrigue, the Founders specified that a person must have been "fourteen years a Resident within the United States." Why was that necessary?
Author David McCullough provides the answer -- although that was not his purpose-in his latest smash bestseller, The Greater Journey: Americans in Paris. McCullough describes John Singer Sargent, the famous American painter. Sargent had been born in Rome to American expatriate parents. Young Sargent lived in Europe and never visited the U.S. until 1876. His wealthy mother brought him to the Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia when he was 19 years old.
Could such an expatriate "natural born Citizen" become president? Not unless he returned to the U.S. and lived here 14 years, the Founders wisely provided. John Singer Sargent painted the powerful portrait of Theodore Roosevelt that today hangs in the White House, but he could not have run for the office himself.
The Founders were serious about American identity and the integrity of republican principles. It was an incredible blessing to us that George and Martha Washington had no children of their marriage. Washington had referred to this fact in the first draft of his Inaugural Address. There would be no danger of monarchy here, he said, because he had "no child for whom I could wish to make provision -- no family to build in greatness upon my country's ruin."
Now, consider Marco Rubio. His parents were resident aliens when he was born in 1971, seeking and soon to receive their status as naturalized U.S. citizens. Under the Fourteenth Amendment, "all persons born...in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the states wherein they reside." This "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause shows why Rubio is -- and, very likely, why children of illegal aliens are not -- a "natural born citizen of the United States."
We should be very careful in discussions of the Constitution to avoid the impression that we are an anti-immigrant party. To say that Rubio, Jindal, and Haley are forever barred because of a strained interpretation of the Constitution's eligibility clause would condemn conservatism to minority status for the foreseeable future. Surely, that is not what we want.
Let's remember Ronald Reagan's beautiful Farewell Address. He spoke of Vietnamese Boat People in the South China Sea.
... the sailor was hard at work on the carrier Midway, which was patrolling the South China Sea. The sailor, like most American servicemen, was young, smart, and fiercely observant. The crew spied on the horizon a leaky little boat. And crammed inside were refugees from Indochina hoping to get to America. The Midway sent a small launch to bring them to the ship and safety. As the refugees made their way through the choppy seas, one spied the sailor on deck, and stood up, and called out to him. He yelled, "Hello, American sailor. Hello, freedom man."
Today, Marco Rubio is a freedom man. So are Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley a freedom man and woman. We should be proud to have any of these children of exiles as our president.
The Constitution. If you capitalize anything capitalize the Constitution. It’s the one the world copies and the one that will keep America free.
I will do that.
If that’s how the Founders defined it, I respect it.
It’s just there are so many trying tear apart at the Constitution that you’re probably better off tightening the eligibility a bit.
Rush: Why aren’t they begging Rubio?
Nextrush: When Sarah Palin enters the race and rises up in the polls they will be begging Rubio to get in to stop her....
My take is that Perry came in when Bachmann was rising and won the Ames, Iowa straw poll.
My take is that all the Chris Christie talk is designed to take attention off the rise of Herman Cain.
The establishment floats candidates to preempt the rise of conservative ones in the race.
I couldn’t agree with you, more.
By some standards mentioned, if Rubio is ineliglble then so is JFK and MCCAIN.
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