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Charge dismissed against woman who videotaped police encounter (Rochester NY)
CNN.com ^ | 6/27/11 | Jesse Solomon, CNN

Posted on 06/27/2011 2:32:01 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

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To: SoldierDad
An innocent cop cannot be entrapped. Yes, because no innocent person is ever entrapped - not ever/s I wonder if remarks like this are reviewed before hitting the post button???

Clearly you have not figured it out. Either the cop does something wrong or he does not. No one can videotape a cop doing something wrong if the cop does nothing wrong.

181 posted on 06/27/2011 8:09:29 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought ("The proposition that the government is always right is manifested either in corruption or benefits)
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To: dennisw
You wouldn't know The Constitution if it bit you in the butt.

That's rich coming from someone who fellates the New Deal Commerce Clause.

182 posted on 06/27/2011 8:21:59 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: dennisw; School of Rational Thought; Repeal The 17th
"How about we videotape you all day long?"

Hey dennisw, it doesn't surprise me that you are so unacquainted with the facts that you are unaware that that is EXACTLY what the Rochester Police Department has in mind for their own citizens.

Of course, it doesn't surprise me that in your ignorant exuberance and "zeal without knowledge" you missed post #22:

This is from the Rochester Police Department's OWN WEBSITE.

"Reducing criminal activity is a top priority for the city’s Mayor and the Rochester Police Department.

These leaders have taken a stand against crime and prioritized a significant amount of time, money, manpower and technology to reduce crime, protect residents and increase business opportunities within the city limits.

Video surveillance is a proven tool in monitoring, analyzing and even shifting crime and terrorist activities. Because of this, the amount of cameras deployed in public surveillance applications continues to grow.

HERE'S THE KICKER! YOU'LL LOVE THIS!!!

Current forecasts anticipate more than a billion cameras will be installed in the United States alone over the next five years. The city of Rochester is no exception.

The city envisions video surveillance as a powerful tool that augments the abilities of its officers, increases situational awareness and enhances safety."

So you see, it's good for us, but not for them! The hypocrites!

Of course, I don't REALLY believe you are as stupid as you pretend. I think you're just having fun, pretending to be.

Because if anyone was REALLY as stupid as you want us to believe you are, you'd be sitting around in your own pee and poop all day, and your rear end would be blistered and swollen like a gigantic red cauliflower. The last thing you would want to do is sit at a computer. lol

LINK

183 posted on 06/27/2011 8:27:59 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: School of Rational Thought
Oh, really? I seem to recall two such cases. One involved Rodney King. That video didn't show the beginning of the "beating".

The other involved a young man an officer was attempting to complete a pat down on while handcuffed. The video showed the officer slamming the young man on the trunk of the police car. What the video didn't show was that the young man had grabbed the officer's crotch and squeezed, and the officer reacted in self-defense. The video was used against the officer. No entrappment involved here, now was there?/s

You, it appears, will always side against the police, while siding for the "perp", regardless of evidence. It isn't I who hasn't figured it out. Video can be manipulated. Video doesn't always show the whole story. You place too much stock in the use of video.

184 posted on 06/27/2011 8:33:25 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Ken H

You are a broken record.


185 posted on 06/27/2011 8:35:57 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

You are hallucinating. Eastman Kodak is mostly defunct. Upstate towns like Rochester are pretty much broke. Don’t have the funds to put up all those video cameras and competently operate them


186 posted on 06/27/2011 8:45:19 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: dennisw

“You are hallucinating. Eastman Kodak is mostly defunct. Upstate towns like Rochester are pretty much broke. Don’t have the funds to put up all those video cameras and competently operate them”

It’s the thought that counts. It’s from their own website, read it and weep.

There’s no “getting around” this one.

And their thought is “GET READY, BECAUSE YOU ARE ON CAMERA 24/7!!!”

Hypocrites. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

By the way, you just got PWNED. fool!


187 posted on 06/27/2011 8:52:13 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: dennisw
Upstate towns like Rochester are pretty much broke. Don't have the funds to put up all those video cameras and competently operate them

What do you want to bet that a chunk of that will come from some federal grant? Fedgov can dole out lots of money anywhere it chooses, thanks to your New Deal Commerce Clause.

188 posted on 06/27/2011 9:04:17 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
I believe this is from Rep. Slaughter's congressional website:

Fiscal Year 2011 Appropriations Awards

One of Rep. Slaughter's highest priorities is directing federal funding back to the Western New York region and her district.

-snip-

During the last Fiscal Year, Rep. Slaughter secured over $49 million for local projects. This money to will go to a wide variety of projects, including the following:

The City of Buffalo Police Department will receive $360,000 for surveillance cameras.  Currently the City has 109 operational video surveillance camera units.  Securing the additional eight cameras will help reduce criminal activity, especially violent crime, and will support the Federal priority of enhancing public safety.

The City of Rochester will receive $2,500,000 for the Rochester Intermodal Transportation Center. The Center will combine rail, bus, taxi, car, and bicycle modes, and will be located at the existing Amtrak Station on Central Avenue in Downtown Rochester.

-snip-

http://www.louise.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49&Itemid=69

189 posted on 06/27/2011 9:36:41 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: SoldierDad

Most people don’t realize how precise the police must be when they are conducting arrests, because failure to do so will make many arrests invalid.


190 posted on 06/28/2011 12:14:48 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: PalmettoMason

Most people would probably accept that the temporary restriction upon a citizen’s right in regards to having to keep one’s distance was just.


191 posted on 06/28/2011 12:17:17 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Precision in arrest in one issue. Another is that the DA doesn’t always choose to pursue charges, especially during these fiscally challenging times.


192 posted on 06/28/2011 12:21:31 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Ken H

That is a good point. I had forgotten about that.

That depends on who gave the order and why it was given.

Since I don’t know what information the SWAT team had. They could have had information that there were multiple suspects on the property. In which case, the priority is to clear the area of suspects, then tend to the wounded.

If, however, SWAT knew that he was the only guy, then I could hold them responsible, because I think they could have probably secured the area immediately without compromising their case.


193 posted on 06/28/2011 12:25:08 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: SoldierDad

For sure. Trials are expensive and not all guilty verdicts are worth the cost.


194 posted on 06/28/2011 12:36:59 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
>>>Cops have rights as well and one of those rights is the right to go home at the end of his shift.<<<

Show me a case of a police officer who was killed by an iPod and I will change my mind.

Of course, police can take reasonable precautions, but he took unreasonable precautions. Actually, his claim that he was taking “precautions” seems totally disingenuous. He clearly wasn't afraid of the woman, he just used that as an excuse to try to order her into her home, so she couldn't video tape him. His only “fear” was the fear of being held accountable for his actions.

There were at least 2 other officers dealing with the one suspect from the traffic stop, and the man they pulled over was presenting no resistance at all. He could have asked one of his fellow officers to keep an eye on her, if he was truly concerned.

If he truly was afraid of a woman with an iPod, standing on her own property, then this officer is so timid and cowardly, that he ought to take up a less stressful profession, like flower arranging or interior decorating.

Also, the incompetent bully turned his back on the real suspect to go after the innocent citizen, exercising her rights, on her own property.

I am very, pro law enforcement, but idiots like this guy have no place in law enforcement and good cops unfairly get bad reputations because of foolish bullies like him.

195 posted on 06/28/2011 7:36:33 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: SoldierDad; Jonty30

Are you defending the cop’s actions? On what basis? The reason the case was not prosecuted is simple, and the DA explained it: THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY CRIME. WHATSOEVER.

Why are you having so much trouble with that?


196 posted on 06/28/2011 10:39:54 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Dear Lord, Please judge Barack Hussein Obama for betraying Israel, and not the whole nation. Amen.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade; Jonty30
He clearly wasn't afraid of the woman, he just used that as an excuse to try to order her into her home, so she couldn't video tape him.

And, at the point in which the woman was placed under arrest, handcuffed, and removed to one of the patrol vehicles is the point in which the video taping ended, right?

Oh, wait. Someone who was with the woman, who had been either inside the house or standing closer to the house, took the video recording instrument, and continued videoing the incident. So, because the officer was only concerned about being videotaped, he then also arrested this individual, right?

Oh, wait. No. The videotaping continued even after the officer's left the scene. So, it's quite obvious that the only reason the officer arrested the woman was because she was videotaping the traffic stop./s

Oh, the rationalizing that has taken place to villianize the police in this incident.

197 posted on 06/28/2011 11:09:17 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Above My Pay Grade; Jonty30
Also, the incompetent bully turned his back on the real suspect to go after the innocent citizen, exercising her rights, on her own property.

Your screen name is apropoe. Did you NOT see the officer take the suspect to the patrol vehicle and hand the suspect off to another officer BEFORE he went to "confront" the "innocent" woman???

198 posted on 06/28/2011 11:12:05 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
I'm defending this officer's (and any officer's) right to secure the scene where they are engaged in a police action. This woman was too close to where the police action was taking place, and the officer was right to request she remove herself from where she was. Demanding she go into her home may, and I emphasize "MAY" have been over the top, but his initial reaction was appropriate.

By the way, people can, and are, arrested for situations where after the fact charges are dismissed, and the officer not held to account for the arrest (in other words, the arrest was appropriate, but the DA decided not to pursue charges). Simply because THIS DA didn't have any balls to stand behind this officer's arrest of this woman doesn't mean that the arrest was invalid or inappropriate.

199 posted on 06/28/2011 11:17:25 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

This is just too funny...


200 posted on 06/28/2011 11:25:20 AM PDT by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Fight Club Lawyer", Bailout)
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