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Ron Paul Bill Attacks Federal Marijuana War
The New American ^ | June 24, 2011 | Alex Newman

Posted on 06/25/2011 1:50:46 AM PDT by danielmryan

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To: dcwusmc

Correct. I tend to slip into sarcasm more as I enter my cynical old age. It’s almost always about the money in everything. The drug war is just another business model.


61 posted on 06/27/2011 8:00:43 AM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: Ken H

Obviously ol’ Lamar is an idiot studying to be a cretin (or the other way ‘round... headed DOWN the food chain, anyway). I bet if I were to call his office, NOT ONE of his people could tell me where fedgov finds the legitimate Constitutional authority for the war on some drugs.


62 posted on 06/27/2011 9:43:32 AM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: dcwusmc

I dont think you know as much about YOUR marines association with the murder investigation as you claim. Ill leave it at that.

Second, the Constitution ALLOWS the states to make their own rules regarding warrants as long as pre-requests are met.

No knocks FYI are for the safety of everyone involved and have developed through the supreme courts as dictated by the constitution because the destruction of evidence can be completed so quickly now a days and the levels of violence that did not exist before.

The CONSTITUTION gave the COURTS the power. GET A GRIP!


63 posted on 06/27/2011 10:33:43 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Ken H

That is only one drug czar in mexico. I guarantee you that 14 billion is NOTHING to the cocaine cartels.


64 posted on 06/27/2011 10:34:35 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

First, your scurrilous attack on a murdered Marine, while I personally may not have known him, his former senior NCO in the Marine Corps did and PERSONALLY brought over the dress blue uniform he was buried in. The sheriff’s office finally copped to the facts that a.) He never took his weapon off safe, let alone fired it at them; b.) NO EVIDENCE OF ANY SORT of wrongdoing was found in the home, NOT EVEN JAYWALKING; and c.) His wife’s family lost someone to a home invasion murder. That you overlook all the above PLUS the OATHKEEPERS rally at his home on Memorial Day strongly implies that your head is so far up some cop’s butt you can’t see daylight. Not that I’d ever say that aloud; for all I know you’re a cop yourself and an apologist for the scumbags who murdered him.

“No knocks” are the worst part of law enforcement personified. They serve NO LEGAL purpose of any sort and are anathema to a free society. Anyone who advocates them should immediately be subject to one. My only consolation with them is that one day these scumbags will come up against a combat vet who, realistically, KNOWS that Officer Friendly is dead and cops ain’t our friends anymore, if they ever were. I truly believe that this miscarriage will end when it’s cops carried off in bodybags. Ending the unconstitutional war on some drugs will also go a good way to ending these abuses.

By the way, which department do YOU work for?


65 posted on 06/27/2011 4:02:04 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: dcwusmc

I said he was the subject of a homicide case. HE WAS.
DEAL WITH IT.

As far as no legal authority, they have it despite your misguided attempts to dictate to the world that cops deserve to be dead.

Many cops are COMBAT vets you twit.


66 posted on 06/28/2011 10:45:34 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

1. He was AFFECTED BY a homicide case. HE was not the subject of one. BIG difference.

2. There is NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY GRANTED for either the war on some drugs OR no-knock raids. Not. A. Bit. Such raids are totally unreasonable and indefensible. Remember, the Brits conducted such atrocities on the Colonists. Do you suppose they could just FORGET that and say, “No,no, it’s OK. It’s our people doing it to themselves”??? Get real.

3. Nor do I necessarily want cops dead gratuitously. If they keep on killing the very folks who hire them for protection, however, and keep getting away with it through sham self-investigations, then it’s going to take dead COPS to get them to rethink their evil, extra-legal ways, isn’t it?

4. I know there are combat vets on PDs. A good friend is retired from the Marine Corps and now retired from that same sheriff’s department. Let me just say he’s less than pleased with what his former colleagues did in this case.


67 posted on 06/28/2011 11:54:46 AM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: dcwusmc

We ended our conversation when you advocated killing Police Officers nut job


68 posted on 06/28/2011 3:43:54 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Awwwww... No, it ended when you ran out of Barbra Striesand to fling.


69 posted on 06/28/2011 6:37:44 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: dcwusmc

You know. While the rest of us are trying to curb DHS from marking returning servicemen as nutjobs.
You give them all the ammo they need.

“Where in the constitution” .. like some unstable kid. Prove it prove it prove it. READ YOU DUMB STICK.

Im a marine and AI advocate killing cops.

YOUR the left wings wet dream.


70 posted on 06/29/2011 7:16:53 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

If government at all levels is not held to account BY ITS BOSSES, We, the People, it won’t ever stop its evil ways. This means asking government to justify its actions against the grant of authority for each action as contained in the Constitution and recognizing the limits on governments described in the PRIMARY Founding Document, the Declaration of Independence, and codified in the Constitution.

The DoI talks about government by and with the “...consent of the governed.” In order to give consent to having something done by your agent, in your name and on your behalf, YOU MUST HOLD LEGITIMATE AUTHORITY TO PERFORM THAT ACT FOR YOURSELF. Otherwise, you’re just as lawless as the person or government you have do the evil deed. Remember, we were handed a REPUBLIC, with a Constitution which places limits on GOVERNMENT, NOT on We, the People. And we are the final line of defense of our Republic, not the government, for were it government’s place, we’d be where we are and more so. So don’t try giving me your “holier than thou” bull bleep and try to imply that an illegitimate regime can legitimately designate veterans as terrorists, while YOUR ilk sits idly by their OTHER depradations. If folks like me don’t speak out against evil, it’s for sure YOU won’t. Then where would we be?

I swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from ALL its enemies. After the second or third time, I began to read, study and compare the clear words of that marvelous document with what government was doing in its name. What an eye opener that was... and remains to this day. I suggest you do the same. Maybe YOU’D learn to ask questions as well. And start to believe that it might just take the deaths of some of its agents of evil for government to change its ways. NO ONE ADVOCATES such an outcome. Sadly, some of us feel it will be needful. BUT, as always, we give government the first shot. We will NOT INITIATE violence. We WILL RESPOND to violence initiated against US, no matter the source.


71 posted on 06/29/2011 9:54:58 AM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: dcwusmc

Didn’t bother reading it.
You can’t make yourself right in this.

DEAL with facts. get some psychiatric help. You REALLY need it.


72 posted on 06/29/2011 7:23:12 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Ok, keep your head in the sand. It’s only liberty and the Constitution we’re talking about, no biggie...


73 posted on 06/29/2011 11:07:47 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: GeronL

http://blogs.forbes.com/artcarden/2011/06/23/the-drug-war-what-is-it-good-for/


74 posted on 07/04/2011 3:23:25 PM PDT by cowtowney
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To: Jmouse007

Thomas Jefferson and George Washington disagree, morality that is man made is not morality. reality belongs to the creator, thou shalt not smoke pot is not one of the ten commandments...


75 posted on 08/04/2011 4:46:16 AM PDT by aces
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