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NY Legislature legalizes gay marriage
AP ^ | June 24, 2011 | MICHAEL GORMLEY

Posted on 06/24/2011 8:06:12 PM PDT by PROCON

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To: wastedyears; Clint N. Suhks; little jeremiah
Get a petition going in your state to ban gay marriage. After all, you have the right to.

We did that in California 3 times. Each time it was overturned by the FEDERAL courts.

Tell me that this is a "states rights" issue when every time California has tried to define marriage in a traditional manner, the FEDERAL courts have effectively told all of us to pound sand.

401 posted on 06/25/2011 10:35:40 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

How is it my fault when I live on the other side of the country? Tell your legislature to tell the federal government to go pound sand, and to have a vote free of the influence of the federal government.

We all know the Obama government won’t allow a Conservative agenda to advance if they have the power to stop it.


402 posted on 06/25/2011 10:41:52 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: wastedyears; little jeremiah
When your state legalizes same sex marriages then my state will have to recognize the legitimacy of those relations. IOW when one state legalizes same sex marriages, every other state must recognize the legitimacy of those marriages.

So if two homos get married in New York and then move to Alabama, they would have the same rights to adopt children as any other married couple would have.

The homosexual agenda is a cancer upon the nation. When you allow it in one part of the body, eventually it will kill the patient.

403 posted on 06/25/2011 10:47:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: wastedyears; P-Marlowe

P is not figuring out only the strong shine right now. It takes a Jesus understanding. There are times when all falls down. Only those that listen carry on.


404 posted on 06/25/2011 10:48:36 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

Huh?


405 posted on 06/25/2011 10:51:36 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Under what order would Alabama have to recognize the marriage, the Commerce Clause? Where in the US code does it say something to that effect?

I vote Conservative, it’s not my fault that elected NY Republicans are spineless puddles of mud. Also, I don’t remember ever being asked by my local representative my opinion on the matter, compounded with them holding a vote late at night, when most people are sleeping.

Petition your local representatives to propose a bill to not honor a same-sex marriage from another state. You have the right to, and your state has the right to under the 10th Amendment.


406 posted on 06/25/2011 10:53:53 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: wastedyears

Monarchy? Laws against perverion = monarchy?

So I guess you’re a Liberal/tarian. Anything goes as long as it’s vice? But restraint on vice is the big no-no?

I’m not saying “ban desires” - they’re within the mind. That has nothing to do with the state forcing same sex marriage on everyone - recognizing it, cooperating with, photographing it, announcing it in the papers, teaching children about it, giving mentally ill sex perverts other peoples’ children via fostering and adopting, and on and on and on.

And as others have noted, votes of the people are routinely overturned by Federal Judges Gone Wild.

So apparently necrophilia, bestiality and incest would be fine with you if people in a state voted to legalize them.


407 posted on 06/25/2011 10:56:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: P-Marlowe

It means carry a towel.


408 posted on 06/25/2011 10:56:17 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: P-Marlowe

P-Marlowe - you are absolutely correct! I hadn’t thought of it that way. Intercepting enemy correspondence, that’s exactly what it is.

And to accuse you! How could a mod not know your position?


409 posted on 06/25/2011 10:57:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: PROCON; ilikebeer

Just the other day I pinged out an article about AG Holder saying he’s going to aggressively enforce “civil rights” on all kinds of institutions and he especially mentioned “churches” - he was referring to the fag agenda.

It’s not a slippery slope any more, it’s a screaming nosedive.


410 posted on 06/25/2011 11:00:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wastedyears

What does a monarchy have to do with not legalizing sexual perversion in the name of fake marriage?


411 posted on 06/25/2011 11:01:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wastedyears; Clint N. Suhks

You’re supporting the homo agenda while pretending not to. That’s called duplicity.


412 posted on 06/25/2011 11:02:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wastedyears; little jeremiah; xzins
Under what order would Alabama have to recognize the marriage,

The contracts clause and the full faith and credit clause.

The Congress recognized this issue and passed the defense of marriage bill. That will ultimately be declared unconstitutional as our country continues in its moral decline.

Petition your local representatives to propose a bill to not honor a same-sex marriage from another state. You have the right to, and your state has the right to under the 10th Amendment.

In today's judical atmosphere, such a law would be declared an unconstitutional impairment of a contract.

Tell me such a law would be upheld under the following test:

The Supreme Court laid out a three-part test for whether a law violates the Contract Clause in Energy Reserves Group v. Kansas Power & Light 459 U.S. 400 (1983). First, the state regulation must substantially impair a contractual relationship. Second, the State "must have a significant and legitimate purpose behind the regulation, such as the remedying of a broad and general social or economic problem." 459 U.S. at 411-13 Third, the law must be reasonable and appropriate for its intended purpose.

413 posted on 06/25/2011 11:03:05 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: little jeremiah

An overreaching federal government micromanaging people’s lives, telling them what to do, how to live, you know, what Obama is trying to do. It’s not fair to us, and the converse wouldn’t be fair to everybody else.


414 posted on 06/25/2011 11:05:04 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Liberaltarians like to dance around mincing words and pretending they aren’t advocating what they are clearly advocating.

Gotta crawl to bed - catch this thread tomorrow.


415 posted on 06/25/2011 11:05:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Why are you trying to say I’m supporting something when I specifically said I don’t support it? You’re like the MSM saying Conservatives are against all immigration, when we’re against people illegally crossing our borders. It’s misinformation, and you’re not helping the Conservative cause.


416 posted on 06/25/2011 11:06:41 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: wastedyears

An overreaching federal government micromanaging people’s lives...


The overreaching federal government is forcing the fag agenda on us all. The fag agenda is a tentacle of the overreaching fed gov and many state govs have swallowed the koolaid as well.

The founders of this country who actually wrote, signed and understood the Constitution thought that laws against sodomy were perfectly fine and Constitutional. They of course didn’t need any federal laws about it because they didn’t have a leftist SCOTUS overturning states’ rights nor did they have a fedgov larded with fags and fag agenda supporters overturning states’ rights and the votes of citizens.


417 posted on 06/25/2011 11:08:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; Admin Moderator; PROCON
And to accuse you! How could a mod not know your position?

I strongly suspect I have been posting on this forum a lot longer than the mod who made that accusation.

Sometimes the mods just get on their own little power trip and when you challenge their authority or their judgment, they just lose it.

I've been suspended a few times after getting into tussles with the mods over stupid decisions they have made. I suspect it will happen again.

As I said, I am not going to sit idly by when ANYONE accuses me of actively promoting the homosexual agenda.

ANYONE.

418 posted on 06/25/2011 11:09:26 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: wastedyears

You’re tacitly supporting it. It’s like saying “I’m personally against abortion, wouldn’t have one myself, but it’s fine with me if other people want them.”


419 posted on 06/25/2011 11:11:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; xzins
Gotta crawl to bed - catch this thread tomorrow.

If I get banned or suspended before that, xzins has my e-mail.

420 posted on 06/25/2011 11:12:03 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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