Dramatic footage shows moment Iraq war vet was shot 70 times in home

UK Daily Mail ^ | 5/27/11 | Daily Mail Reporter

[Longdriver]

We have dozens of threads on this case. If you bothered reading them you’d learn something.

One of the first things I did was establish that the Indiana court’s ruling was not at all consistent with the facts of the case. The second thing I did was establish that the method used by the judge to examine the case IS consistent with current and traditional standards used in Shariah Law.

That last point regarding Shariah is very relevant to this case. The judge was lead counsel for the defense side for the prisoners at GITMO for 8 years. He had more than enough close contact with Moslem radicals to think he may have gone over!

So, punk, I’m after the judge for being an AlQaida adjunct and you think this has something to do with me being a jack booted thug lover?

Let me suggest this one time ~ you attack me on the points I’ve made on this case with knowledge of what has been posted before by me and others or I will ask that you be removed from FR PERMANANTLY.

Frankly, I don’t think you’re smart enough to discuss the big letters on my jockstrap ~ even close up eh!

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Remove “this” permanently. FR isn’t someplace that removes people who love the Constitution, just because some police-state lover got butthurt. Your reaction is typical of the statist police-state enthusiast though. Can’t handle someone with a differnt thought so banish it! Whatever. The world nor my time revolves around your previous posts. I couldn’t give a crap what points you’ve made nor do I care to investigate what some loud-mouthed yahoo on the internet typed at some point. Nothing you’ve said, think, or typed had any relevance to the outcome of this decision. The only-ONLY- thing that matters is the awful, liberty-killing expansion of the Police State that these rulings made legal.

Cops breaking into houses without warrants is 100% bull$@!#$@t. No conservative should support such unConstitutional madness.

[TankerKC]

...here WAS about 8-10 seconds between the door crashing down and the gunfire starting. ....

There was 7-8 seconds.

[muawiyah]

Exactly what I meant. You aren't very bright. You have no original thoughts, or even meaningful thoughts, and you have not yet read through all the threads regarding that issue.

Self imposed ignorance is a grievous sin.

Your first response to the first thing you realized you didn't understand at all was to call names. That's classic Leftwingtard behavior. There is no shortage of such folks and FR doesn't need more of 'em.

[muawiyah]

The "swat team" raided three other houses that evening and nothing like this happened there.

So, was this the first house, or the last house, or were they done simultaneously with the junior birdmen sent here because it was the softest target (had mother and child, etc.)

Or, was this a contract hit job. Remember, this is the same place the same sheriff kept on letting Jared run loose until he scragged a Republican federal judge. Now Jared is out of reach of interrogation because he's too nuts to stand trial.

[Teacher317]

There were 27 seconds between the time of the siren and the door being opened. Enough time for the resident to get his weapon.

So it is now acceptable to fire upon a person because he MIGHT have time to get a WEAPON that he MIGHT or might not have?

There was another eight seconds before the first shot was fired

More than enough time for the murderers, errr, SWAT team, to determine that he did NOT have a weapon, and did NOT fire upon them.

This was murder. In a just system, those who shot even once would be suspended without pay until they could be trained to not fire until it is proper to do so. The person in charge of this raid should be fired, and have their retirement pay halved. The murderer, err, officer who shot first should be in jail.

THEN maybe those who supposedly "protect and serve" will start acting appropriately.

Once upon a time, we would rather let 100 guilty men go free than to simply jail one innocent man. Now we murder people and allow the officials responsible to cover it up to avoid embarrassment. I admired that old system. Now that the effeminization of America has made Security far more important than Liberty, we can look forward to much more of this kind of oppression... all in the name of Public Safety.

Another recent example to raise your ire: A drunk (at 11am) on-duty cop (he marked himself and his K-9 as "in-service" 20 min before, without attending roll call) plowed his cruiser into 4 motorcyclists, killing one, and severely injuring 2 more. The police who arrived on the scene said they "didn't smell alcohol" (although he was .19, and Indiana's limit is .08). The blood test was "mishandled" (a non-DUI-certified lab tech drew the blood), and thus that evidence against him was declared inadmissible in the officer's trial. The DUI charges were dropped. David Bisard

[Teacher317]

Yeah, he was the subject of and part of a 4 house warrant, sirens go off and dozens of SWAT are at your door and you present a rifle. yeah...he was innocent.

You advocate against abortion, but advocate for outright murder without a trial, just because you can INFER that someone MIGHT be associated with a BAD NEIGHBORHOOD?

I hope Karma works in your case.

[Longdriver]

I consider anyone who wants to throw out the 4th Amendment to be an enemy of the state. I care not for whatever you’ve posted. If you agree-great. If not-you’re an enemy of me. My time spent on FR DOES NOT revolve around whatever you post. I DO NOT care what you’ve posted. It is completely irrelevant to the effects of the IN Court ruling, which were to crap on the 4th Amendment. Please let your ego read this, if it ever drops out of the clouds.

Resorting to “You’re a Lefty” is asinine, wrong and classic behavior of someone who’s lost the debate. You cannot defend a SC ruling that burns the 4th Amendment so you resort to personal insults. I don’t know NOR CARE about your position on that ruling: IT DOES NOT MATTER. You need to get off your High Horse of Ego: America’s judicial system DOES NOT CARE WHAT MUAWIYAH IS TYPING ON AN INTERNET SITE. Your opinion doesn’t change the outcome of the IN SC ruling AT ALL. I don’t care about whatever you typed about asinine shari’a. That $hit has no place in America or earth for that matter. If you are FOR that IN SC ruling, you’re an enemy of mine. If you are AGAINST that IN SC ruling, then I wish you ‘Good day, sir’.

I am done with you. I’ve got far bigger fish to fry than your Ego-On-A-Pedestal. In the future, I will continue to offer my opinion without first checking what yours is on a subject. In America, I can still do that legally.

[rbmillerjr]

“You advocate against abortion, but advocate for outright murder without a trial”

No, I advocate for rule of law.

The perp was under serious investigation for serious crimes and pointed an AR 15 at a SWAT team. What do you think was going to happen in that situation.?

Some of you people live in a fantasy land.

[trisham]

Is there a problem with advocating against abortion?

[muawiyah]

The Indiana court has no jurisdiction over the Fourth Amendment. Their rulings mean nothing because it's in the Federal Constitution.

Going further this particular ruling is not precedental. It has no connection whatsoever to the fact situation (guy jumping on cops and trying to beat them up) which means it will never be cited by any lawyer or prosecutor in the future (at least not without a lot of giggles).

The Indiana Attorney General has already asked for a reconsideration, which, by now, the judges should have figured out will certainly require that they look at everything clean and sober.

Now for my opinion of an idiot who has failed to educate himself about our federal structure, the fourth amendment's place in the Bill of Rights, and what the big words mean ~ you are an idiot!

Go read the case (which has different information in it than the newspaper article).

[muawiyah]

BTW, we don't know what the dead guy was being looked at for since they've sealed the warrant.

There are indications the AR15 was planted on him by the SWAT team.

Lot of empty loose ends in this one so we don't even know if this was the right guy yet.

[rbmillerjr]

“There are indications the AR15 was planted on him by the SWAT team.”

Patently absurd.

Of course. The Anthony child murderer indicates that her step father and brother molested her.

[muawiyah]

Hmm ~ did you read the transcript of part of the wife's interview by the police?

The cops wrote it down. She claims no knowledge of him owning an AR15, just a 38 pistol.

So, patently ridiculous? The woman's just been involved in a police raid, major fire fight was involved with cops shooting cops, and there her and her young child are hiding in the closet.

She said it according to the cops themselves.

It's on the table eh!

BTW, the Anthony deal involves a young woman on trial for her life for killing her little girl. The woman here has nothing in common with Anthony ~ except she's a woman.

Now, are you a Moslem with a strong belief in Shariah law? The fact you instantly discounted the value of a woman's testimony (that transcript) suggests you are. We find the same problem in the Indiana case ~ the justice who wrote the decision seems to have been heavily influenced by Shariah law standards of jurisprudence. He not only discounted the woman's part in the case, he IGNORED it in its entirity YET she had rights under Indiana's Castle Doctrine law that had to be respected by the court ~ but they weren't.

What is this ~ are we being overrun by 9th century nut case Islamic holy men or what?

[free_life]

Again, read Soviet Union and East German history to see what police states do. Not even close to that in the US.

Tell that to this dead Marines wife and child!

IF, and it is a pretty big IF with the facts we know...IF he is guilty of some crime and IF he knew it was police kicking in his door and IF he pointed a gun at police, it does not wash away the police preventing him getting medical help for an hour. These thugs with badges need jail time for that alone AND it is smelling like for a lot more also.

[dragnet2]

I’m calling this drug dealing dirt bag a former fricking Marine.

Since he is dead and can't speak for himself and there has been no trial, how do you know he's guilty of dealing drugs?

[rolling_stone]

,,,,,The perp,,,

I must have missed that what crime did he commit?