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The Vindication of George W. Bush
Hotair ^ | 05/05/2011 | Guy Benson

Posted on 05/05/2011 6:30:28 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: DoughtyOne

The people on the left hate Bush’s guts....that SHOULD tell you something.

Im old enough to remember but a lot of people forget......after Reagan left office the left hated his guts and some on the far right also hated him and some of his policies .....(He and Tip O’Neil were the best of friends remember) Government and debt expanded under his watch .....dare I mention Reagan’s border policy? arms for hostages ( that sure made the Republican brand look bad ) (which he passed through congress) hell, look at some of his Supreme court picks (Sandra Day O’Conner anyone?)

Gradually it changed....the hatred on the left slowly dissipated and his critics on the right shut up and died off ....He looked better and better over the years....just as GW Bush has and will

You will be a historic footnote


121 posted on 05/06/2011 9:56:08 PM PDT by woofie
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To: STARWISE
PREFECT©

122 posted on 05/06/2011 10:16:49 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: woofie; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; hosepipe
RE :”Im old enough to remember but a lot of people forget......after Reagan left office the left hated his guts and some on the far right also hated him and some of his policies ... Gradually it changed....the hatred on the left slowly dissipated and his critics on the right shut up and died off ....He looked better and better over the years....just as GW Bush has and will

You are delusional claiming GWB is like Reagan.

Reagan left office loved and respected and he won us a third term in the WH: Bush SR 1989-1992. In contrast Bush won us Pelosi and Obama in charge with 60 in the Senate.

You cant even see the difference. Reagan won the cold war. HE WON IT. We got to close our military bases around the world because the USSR collapsed due to his actions. We got a huge peace dividend $$$$ from his policies during the 1990s, starting in 1991. You see anything like that now? GWB, maybe a well meaning guy, was a midget compared to Reagan the best president of our century.

123 posted on 05/06/2011 10:20:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: STARWISE; Jim Robinson
but you’re actually comfortable posting ugliness here

IIRC, Jim Robinson himself has called Bush a RINO in the past. Shall I go looking for the exact post so I can cite it here?

As for Bush, he was and is a RINO, unless, of course, you would like to state that Big Government "compassionate conservatism," bailouts and nationalizations, the expansion of Big Government bureaucracy (Department of Homeland Security), the Federalization of public education, government intervention to provide "affordable housing" through downpayment grants, amnesties and benefit bonanzas for illegal aliens, welfare give-aways in Africa, and the expansion of socialized health care (Medicare) are in fact conservative in nature.

Every...single...one...of these instances of Bush's agenda of "compassionate conservatism" (which bears an eerie resemblance to Obama's recent assertions that we are each other's keepers and to Obama's steadfast belief that more government is the answer) is fully documented on FR, on the Web, in major news outlets of all political leanings, and in the records of the Federal government.

Frankly, what angers me is that Bush apologists like yourself, when confronted with his decidedly non-conservative record, start crowing about Bush's supposedly good character, integrity, religious beliefs, etc. -- none of which have anything to do with his dismal record as a so-called conservative -- while doing the virtual equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and yelling at the top of your lungs so you don't have to hear the ugly truth about Bush's record.

you’re admitting to being a freeloader, too ?

I said that I stopped, which implied that I was making contributions at some point. Shucks, I was even on the dollar-a-day list at one point. Those are not the actions of a "freeloader," now are they, Starwise?

124 posted on 05/06/2011 10:25:56 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385; sickoflibs
rah, rah, sis-boom-bah...wait, what???

why bother with a pissin match ??? at this point we are w/o a decent candidate to step up, so the history really is irrelevant except to say that i will not cast a vote 'for' another rino-o-p hack because hes 'better than' the commie...period...

125 posted on 05/07/2011 5:02:45 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: SeekAndFind; rabscuttle385; hosepipe
It's a damn shame Bush could not leave the country in more capable hands. There's a reason Obama won the WH. Bush's legacy IS Obama.

BTW, my Momma would have fought the WOT as vigorously and would not have kissed Dummycrat ass along the way.

John Derbyshire: Eight Wasted Years
...Margaret Thatcher used to talk about the “ratchet effect.” When the Left gets power, she said, they drive everything Left; when the Right gets power, they slow the Leftward drive, perhaps even halt it for a spell; but nothing ever gets moved to the Right. U.S. politics in the 21st century so far bears out this dismal analysis. What does the Right have to show for eight years of a Republican presidency? I supported George W. Bush in 2000 because I thought he had a conservative bone in his body somewhere. I supported him in 2004 because I thought him the lesser of two evils. At this point, I wouldn’t let the fool park his car in my driveway. Bruce Bartlett was right, every damn word...
Bill Gertz interview on Hannity and Colmes
Gertz: Well he casts himself as a compassionate conservative and I argue that he's neither. That his administration is neither. He's done tremendous damage to the conservative movement...

126 posted on 05/07/2011 5:20:50 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: hosepipe

We’re talking about war here, sir, not domestic policy and One World paranoia.


127 posted on 05/07/2011 5:34:33 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: hosepipe
I didn't say you were a leftist troll. I said you were acting like a leftist troll, and you are.

You can hate this good patriot the rest of your life, and it will do you no good. It won't make you more conservative. It won't make you more honorable.

It will only make you angrier than you already are, and that will destroy you.

It has nothing to do with "kool-aid" (though you do throw mindless talking points around with the best of them). It has to do with discernment, the ability to make moral judgements, and the ability to accept that your own political views are not the highest moral good.

I'll repeat what I said in my first post to you. I feel as sorry for you as I do for anyone on this board. You have allowed your political ideology to make you a miserable wretch.

What a waste of a good mind.

128 posted on 05/07/2011 6:27:01 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: hosepipe
btw, I don't agree with leftists about ANYTHING.

You share their hatred of President Bush and they would high five you when you compared him with Alfred E. Newman and call him a 'malefactor.'

You are not a leftist troll, but you certainly agree with them about President Bush, and that is pathetic. You and the left are one in spirit.

129 posted on 05/07/2011 6:30:11 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: DoughtyOne
While I don't have a problem with that in concept, it has been my experience in life that when we want something very bad, we often think it's God's will for that to take place. I'm not trying to give you grief over Bush on this topic, because I don't want to make those types of arguments regarding him. God's will is not always as easy to see as we would like to think it is, and I don't want to speak for Him regarind this man. It's not an argument that I think men should argue definitively on a person that has good and bad traits. That's just my take on it.

Hey, thanks for the response. I appreciate the exchange.

So do I.

My comments about God's provision of a President we needed when we needed him is based solely on the Scriptural absolute that God places all leaders in authority at all times.

He is Sovereign and in control of all things, and nothing happens that is outside of His Sovereign will.

When we were attacked on 9/11 God had provided His own servant whom HE knew would seek guidance and be on his knees in prayer.

God provided President Bush the wisdom he needed and asked for to guide us through some very dark and dangerous days. (That IS, btw, the subject of this thread. Jehovah Jireh).

I don't believe it is Scripturally debatable that God is Sovereign, and in these difficult days with a Marxist in the White House, I rely on that even more than I have before in my long life.

As for the 'border thing'.....there was so much abject hatred and irrational anger on those threads that most Bush supporters avoided them like the plague. The comments were vile, profane, filthy, filled with name-calling and disgusting comments and served absolutely no purpose to promote or discuss conservatism. That's why you didn't 'see' many of us who disagreed with the policy but still respected the President there. There was no place on those threads for sanity. They were emotional explosions from completely irrational Bush haters.

Now, I see that the mindless, dishonest I-hate-Bush boy band is here in force, and the end of rational discussion is at hand.

Perhaps some time when they return to whatever forum they belong on, this discussion can continue, but for now, it's best for me to not even see the bile they post.....

Too bad. It's been a good discussion, and they, as always, have destroyed it.

130 posted on 05/07/2011 6:44:56 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan
As for the 'border thing'.....there was so much abject hatred and irrational anger on those threads that most Bush supporters avoided them like the plague. The comments were vile, profane, filthy, filled with name-calling and disgusting comments and served absolutely no purpose to promote or discuss conservatism. That's why you didn't 'see' many of us who disagreed with the policy but still respected the President there. There was no place on those threads for sanity. They were emotional explosions from completely irrational Bush haters.

I said what I could at the time.and was soon shouted down ...I live in a border state and most of those " experts" who were sure Bush was "not protecting the border!" havent been south of New Jersey.

I asked a bio weapons expert friend how someone would attack us ....he said they can get in a boat west of L A and dump their chemical weapons in the water.

Suddenly I realized that Bush was a failure and hadnt built a fence up and down our coastlines like any REAL Conservative President would.

131 posted on 05/07/2011 7:19:56 AM PDT by woofie
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To: sickoflibs

I love it ...Im “irrational” because I point out that Reagan was a a fallible man just like the rest of us ...and you are defending the proposition that Reagan was a God that Bush wouldnt be able to touch.... You might want to get a shrink or two in your “ REAL CONSERVATIVE” utopia.....I have a feeling you might need one.


132 posted on 05/07/2011 7:28:40 AM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie
Suddenly I realized that Bush was a failure and hadnt built a fence up and down our coastlines like any REAL Conservative President would.

LOL! And you KNOW that Reagan worked tirelessly for that coastline fence. That's why 'true' conservatives worship him. :)

133 posted on 05/07/2011 7:45:45 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: woofie
Don't waste your time with that one. He makes Bill Clinton and Barack Obama look like honest men.

He's even been called an "idiot troll" by the owner of the forum.

You're wasting your breath trying to reason with it.

134 posted on 05/07/2011 7:47:22 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: metesky
[ We’re talking about war here, sir, not domestic policy and One World paranoia. ]

There actually several WARS... plus a Trojan Horse in Washington D.C... The domestic WAR is the most grave.. You know the Un-Civil WAR...

The Progressives have always wanted a one world government.. they were not shy in proclaiming that.. even for a time in the Nintys most world class progressives touted those phrases.. They had completely ShUT UP about ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT... Now..

The Bushs were right in there with the Progressives.. its not a new development.. Bush Jr. earned some bonavides after the twin towers but make no mistake.. the Bushs are "progressives"..

Other progressives: The Clintoons, Obama, John McLame, Graham, The Maine twins, the entire democrat party, Carl Rove, Charlie Crankhammar, there is a long list..

135 posted on 05/07/2011 8:26:27 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: ohioWfan
[ You can hate this good patriot the rest of your life, and it will do you no good. It won't make you more conservative. It won't make you more honorable. ]

I don't hate G. Bush. either of them.. they are what they are..

i.e. Posuers, shills, stealth democrats, phoneys, fakes, moles, progressives, globalists... being a RINO would be a step ...UP...

136 posted on 05/07/2011 8:32:44 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: ohioWfan
[ You are not a leftist troll, but you certainly agree with them about President Bush, and that is pathetic. You and the left are one in spirit. ]

The leftys just followed party talking points to prepare the way for "THE ONE"... as G. Bush did everything he could do to "dispirit" and under-mine the republican party..

They were BOTH brilliant in their tactics.. which made it possible for a known and virulent Marxist to win the presidency.. and 60% of the Senate by the way.. a reverse 2010 election..

BUT be advised it was all prepared layed out and executed in a brilliant way.. Glen Beck has exposed much of Soros minions.. but theres many more.. like the entire State department.. Bush did not get rid of all of the leftist lawyers Clinton put in the Justice department.. I wondered at the stupidity of that move.. there are other "TELLS" form Bush.. but this is enough..

137 posted on 05/07/2011 8:43:14 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: ohioWfan
Until you address all the FACTS I stated in post #88 regarding the REALITY of why Obama was elected, your posts remain poppycock.

You are basing each one of them on your feelings, which is what all of you pseudo, self exalting uber-cons do on a regular basis.

So, since you choose to ignore reality and spout your bizarre, emotion-based fantasies, I will bid you adieu.

I do hope some day you recover. You've missed an important chapter in American history. Maybe someday you'll get it, but until then......

Oh..... at some point DO read the article at the top of this thread. You may do something frightening like LEARN. It might be a pleasant change for you.

138 posted on 05/07/2011 9:58:06 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: hosepipe; STARWISE
Posting this on a new page just to drive the pseudo-cons, BDS'ers and leftist trolls crazy.....

God BLESS President Bush!

139 posted on 05/07/2011 10:00:45 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: woofie; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; hosepipe
RE :”I love it ...Im “irrational” because I point out that Reagan was a a fallible man just like the rest of us ...and you are defending the proposition that Reagan was a God that Bush wouldnt be able to touch.... You might want to get a shrink or two in your “ REAL CONSERVATIVE” utopia.....I have a feeling you might need one

Trashing Reagan to prop up GWBush is despicable. Bush couldnt fill Reagan's shadow.

Reagan left office loved and adored, not despised as with your earlier characterization. That is why his VP won the election in 1988. Bush won us Obama and Pelosi in 2006 and 2008. If that is your idea of a success maybe it's time you just vote Democrat and save time.

140 posted on 05/07/2011 10:28:43 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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