BREAKING: Baby Joseph is home: defies critics by breathing completely on his own

LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/21/11 | Rebecca Millette

[Texas Eagle]

You may be right. I’ve heard of a number of people who have gone to Costa Rica for medical treatment.

[trisham]

And instead of the vast majority of Americans receiving excellent care, only the very rich and privileged will be able to afford the cost. What ghouls these politicians are who currently hold power.

[EternalVigilance]

Once our version of Canada’s health care system if fully implemented, where will future Baby Joseph’s go for life-saving treatment?

"The United States remains the last best hope for a mankind plagued by tyranny and deprivation."

-- Ronald Reagan

[kaila]

I was minding my own business.
You guys posted to me.
This baby poses no threat, as long as I do not have to pay for it.
There are thousands of Baby and Adult Josephs in this country. Terminally ill patients.
It is becoming a real issue. The medical profession has the ability to keep someone alive, but at a great cost.
As a society, are we going to be able to afford this?
How do we pay for this?
If you have the answer to this question, you would probably win the Nobel prize.

[wagglebee]

The dirty little secret is that medical care is really quite affordable without all of the interference from insurance companies and the government.

[BykrBayb]

Would you put a trach down a patient with terminal lung cancer? I would not.

Who else would you deprive of air? Would eliminate artificial respiration entirely? Is there anyone you would allow assistance in breathing? How about food and water? Where do you draw the line?

[trisham]

This baby poses no threat

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How is baby Joseph a threat to you? Do you even see him as a human being? Or just a threat?

[kaila]

Yep, he is off the ventilator.
Kudos to you on that.
He still is not going to recover.

[kaila]

When do you draw the line?

[EternalVigilance]

How do we pay for this? If you have the answer to this question, you would probably win the Nobel prize.

Gosh. Never thought I would win a Nobel Prize.

It's simple. Walk according to the moral principles that have always been the foundation of this free republic.

God made us all. He made us all equal. He made us in His own image, and of infinite worth.

And He told us to take care of each other, especially the weakest and most helpless among us.

See, problem solved.

[kaila]

When do you stop?
When do you say- it is in Gods hands?
Where is the line?
If you have a relative with terminal cancer, are you going to put them on a ventilator?

[wagglebee]

This baby poses no threat, as long as I do not have to pay for it.

There are circumstances under which you consider someone in Baby Joseph's condition to be a "threat"? You are more deranged than I thought.

It is becoming a real issue. The medical profession has the ability to keep someone alive, but at a great cost.

Baby Joseph's treatment cost about $150K and it didn't cost you a penny, he is now OFF THE VENTILATOR. There is no significant ongoing cost.

As a society, are we going to be able to afford this?

You sound EXACTLY like the monsters who created this propaganda:

“This person suffering from hereditary defects

costs the people 60,000 Reichmarks during his lifetime.

People, that is your money. Read ‘New People’.”

[EternalVigilance]

It’s always in God’s hands. But He has given us responsibilities to love and care for each other, to the best of our abilities, especially those who are the weakest among us.

[kaila]

Another question-
There is a drug ( I cannot remember the name) that was approved by the FDA, and Medicare.
It prolongs life for 4 months for patients with terminal prostate cancer.
The cost is $90,000 for the drug.
Are you willing to pay for increased taxes, or decreased medicare benefits to prolong life for 4 months?
These questions, and answers are not simple.

[EternalVigilance]

These questions, and answers are not simple.

Oh, but they are simple.

"There are no easy answers but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right."

-- Ronald Reagan

[EternalVigilance]

Are you willing to pay for increased taxes, or decreased medicare benefits to prolong life for 4 months?

I note that all your questions and "answers" involve government.

Are you a socialist?

[kaila]

I get really tired when you post the Nazi propaganda.
I was just recently at Auschwitz, and let me tell you it does a disservice to compare this baby to the people who lived in subhuman conditions and were exterminated there.
This baby has had attention, and medical treatment for his entire life.
Comparing this baby to Nazis does a disservice to the people who died cruelly by Hitler.

[kaila]

I get really tired when you post the Nazi propaganda.
I was just recently at Auschwitz, and let me tell you it does a disservice to compare this baby to the people who lived in subhuman conditions and were exterminated there.
This baby has had attention, and medical treatment for his entire life.
Comparing this baby to Nazis does a disservice to the people who died cruelly by Hitler.

[wagglebee]

When do you stop?
When do you say- it is in Gods hands? Baby Joseph is breathing on his own, IT IS in God's hands. Do you really not believe that God has the Power to end or extend life at any time regardless of medical science?

Do you believe that God would have allowed man to develop life-saving medical practices if He didn't want us to use them?

If you have a relative with terminal cancer, are you going to put them on a ventilator?

Baby Joseph IS NOT on a ventilator.

[BykrBayb]

I was minding my own business. You guys posted to me.
My first post to you was a reply to your post #75. You weren't minding your own business. You were calling for the killing of an innocent baby.

This baby poses no threat, as long as I do not have to pay for it.

I don't believe you. I think Baby Joseph is a threat to your agenda. I don't think you'd be calling for him to be killed if you didn't have a strong reason.

There are thousands of Baby and Adult Josephs in this country.

There sure are. Will we treat them with compassion, or will we kill them?

Terminally ill patients.

What do you think that means?

It is becoming a real issue. The medical profession has the ability to keep someone alive, but at a great cost.

It has been an issue since the dawn of mankind. We're all going to die. Eliminating the medical profession won't solve the problem. There is a reason we have medical professionals. We want them to treat us. That's not a bad thing. We're willing to pay them to treat us and those we care about. We're not willing to pay them to refuse to treat us.

As a society, are we going to be able to afford this?

Yes, we will continue to afford it, as we always have. It is not your place to tell us we can't pay for and receive medical care.

How do we pay for this?

It was paid for with voluntary contributions, which you tried to discourage.

If you have the answer to this question, you would probably win the Nobel prize.

I've found more valuable prizes in a box of Cracker Jacks.