good luck with that...I’m not sure I understand why you are asking FReepers to start a new forum...can’t you do what you want to do here?
good luck with that...Here’s your problem: Those “500 titans of industry” all vote Democrat and give to liberal candidates and causes. All so as to destroy small competitors by using the power of the state to given themselves de facto monopoly or oligopoly control. It is as if, in an absurd backwards way, Marx is right: the wealthy ruling class fattens itself on the back of the producers, but in reality they do so by using Marxist means. The producers, in this case, are the true capitalists, entrepreneurs and small-to-medium sized business owners who see their ideas destroyed and their wealth appropriated for bailouts by those 500 titans of industry.
“Going galt” has got to be one of the most idiotic things I’ve heard across the Conservative spectrum. And feeling defeated is not a good excuse to embrace it.
“Your Hope redistributed. Here’s your Change” — an old tongue-in-cheek tag. Let’s not make it so.
I don’t need a debate on why I hate Obama, liberals and Dummycrats. I wont pray for them and anything that makes their destruction possible makes me happy.
Look, those that will burn in hell will burn there regardless.
We shouldn’t hide from them, we should simply remind them of their fate while speeding them to it through voting and working.
An underground already exists; some of it is formal, I’m sure, but most of it is not.
Galt is not my hero- I’ve not read the book. Jesus is my hero and I’ve internalized His outcome for this world, to the point of death (which I do not seek or relish at present).
Push come to shove, most Christians will die for their faith, though.
Without God I cannot discern any meaning for this life.
If you’ve never known wealth... how can you “go Galt”? What impact do you think it will have? None. Except freeing up jobs for the unemployed.
If you convinced 500 companies to go galt, there will 500 new companies to take over. The world is hungry for work.
“I’ll fund the startup of such a forum, but I lack the means to continue it and grow it to national stature or size, it would eventually require support, mostly in commitment and time, and a tireless recruitment effort, to make the movement large enough to do what Galt’s team did... change a nation.
I have little illusion that anything I start can become that in and of itself. But one little light can light another, and another, and another.
What say you? Would you be in?”
You don’t need to ask the question - whatever answer you might get here may not be that meaningful anyway.
My suggestion is this: Start the project, invite people to join in, even on a trial basis, and soon you will get your answer - a real answer.
Galt was, in essence, a TEA Partier...he was one person who did the best with what he had to defeat his enemies.
The problem with getting the 500 Titans of industry to go along with this is that so many of them are actively engaged in crony capitialism...which is faux capitalism and relies on the government.
If it’s any consolation, I’m seeing more and more rank and file dems coming to terms with the fiscal problems we have, and what needs to be done about them. Frankly, that heartens me.
Now...I am way late in going to bed. Nitey nite! ;o)
Sad to say... of the few who chose to respond, only one put thought into reading and responding. And admirably, too. The FR I knew of the long past, is apparently, the long past, and not many serious people any longer, just the casual readers and non-engaged...
I’d say this is probably my last post for FR, which is, for me, a very sad thing to say, since the early days of this site had a very large impact on my life and my thinking, because of people who were intellectually engaged, and could do more than the most cursory reading of something slightly cryptic, yet, obvious in intent.
Iv’e been here since long before you needed a login, sometimes with a hiatus of a few months, while matters of family or business took my attention away. It never occurred to me that the demographics had changed so much. Perhaps it was the fire and profundity of those who were so engaged that eventually put them in conflict with the rest and so, dwindled and drifted away.
For the rest of you who could not be bothered to read and comprehend a few lines of english and grasp the message behind it, you are not the people who will change anything but your own vote. You neither care, nor engage your mind enough to see past the buzzwords you’ve chosen to respond to. You are not the material of those who will save a nation in ruin, you’re just snipers from the peanut gallery. I am stunned at your failure to comprehend... and even amused by the poor schmuck who insisted I didn’t know how to write or think coherently. The early days of FR would have had me peppered with relevant questions, even hard ones, that displayed a keen and active mind.
Perhaps that’s why I used to read for the commentary... and now I scan the postings to find info and ignore most of the commentary.
JimRob, you can’t sit on your laurels any longer, your once great group has seriously decayed. I suggest some introspection and serious analysis to see why. I wish you well in your endeavors, your efforts from the past no doubt planted some of the seeds for the TEA Party to rise. May God Bless.
Truly instituting change from the ground up involves first seizing and securing the Public school system...like the extreme left did back in the 70s, with a second more radical wave hitting in the 90s. By doing this, they ensured that they had a factory of willing atheists and socialists at their beck and call.
Unless you can take over or destroy the Department of Education, ground up change is an illusion.
The point, I believe, is not that folks need to “go Galt” but that it is human nature to do so. Folks won’t work as hard when their perception is that they will not enjoy the fruits of their labor. Simple, really.
You're not thinking of starting some lame blog I hope?
We have enough lame blogs cluttering up the place already.
If Rand was mistaken, how do you explain us being where we are today? You can know the truth and still be a sheep and we seem to fit the description - we mock the PC society, yet we still abide by PC as a sign of "civility". That's the same as being taken in by it all and even sadder and more pitiful for our knowledge of the truth...
Already have. I do everything I can to starve the beast. Ignore taxes, permits, fines, fees. Pay and work cash. Raise resentment and educated amongst the workers.
I understand your desire to see the republic restored, but your solution, to replace the corrupted leadership, or “professional looters” as you referred to them requires that we have uncorrupted individuals to replace them with.
Sadly this is not the case, as we see time and time again at every election cycle. We can replace the whole lot of Senators and Congresscritters only to have to repeat the process because the machine itself is corrupt.
The only way we can recover is if we have people of high moral principles who are determined to do what is right by their countrymen, and to hell with special interests. Do we have any likely candidates? Presently I can name only a handful currently in office, and it will take an outstanding majority if true restoration is to be achieved.
The only solution I foresee is social unrest and civil war. A form of cleansing. The reason for this is that a people, its organizations and institutions will no longer be able lie to themselves or others. Death and the fear of it has a way of bringing the truth out.
It is not cool to recruit on FR for other forums. That is ZOT-worthy.