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SHOCKING AUDIO: Philadelphia Police violate rights of open carrier at gunpoint (PA)
OpenCarry.org ^ | 24 March, 2011 | t1m0thy

Posted on 03/26/2011 4:28:04 PM PDT by marktwain

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To: Tublecane
As if only people he knows can carry firearms.

I'm sure that's how he thinks - only people he knows should have guns. That's the problem.

61 posted on 03/26/2011 7:45:03 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: marktwain
Here's what could have happened if this guy had done this late at night or had pulled this in Las Vegas with all the qualified cops working casino security. Most cities put their shaved apes on midnight shifts where they will just taser/handcuff and kick the crap out of prisoners. But they will also shoot at a hare's breath.

This former Army Officer was a well trained West Point grad carrying concealed.

West Point Officer shopping for camping gear.

62 posted on 03/26/2011 7:55:34 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: marktwain
hmmmm...

So what happened?

Everything is blanked out but the audio.
Am I missing something?

63 posted on 03/26/2011 7:58:59 PM PDT by China Clipper (My favorite animals usually are found next to the rice on my plate.)
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To: China Clipper

“Everything is blanked out but the audio.
Am I missing something?”

It is an audio recording.


64 posted on 03/26/2011 8:13:19 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Serve and Protect” long ago turned into “Us and Them” ... cops are NOT your friends. The days of “Officer Friendly” partolling his beat disappeared with all the other Norman Rockwell visions of America. We are a multicultural lowest common denominator police state, by design.

Any encounter with law enforcement has the potential to turn out badly for the citizen, in terms of loss of liberties or life, or at the very least in terms of loss of income.


65 posted on 03/26/2011 8:29:05 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: petro45acp

“Police officers are people who more often or not deal with the downside of society.”

Yes, and that makes some of them—also known as “bad cops”—view everyone as criminals until proven otherwise. Which, I hardly need to add, is not the ideal for law enforcement in a free republic.

“That officer has a primary objective every time he gets out of the car, to control the situation.”

Not when there’s no “situation.” He shouldn’t, for instance, unload his weapon on a tree that looks at him crosseyed. Assuming he perceives the tree to possess eyes and ill intent (and, gosh help them, they can be mouthy, can’t they?).


66 posted on 03/26/2011 8:36:59 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: marktwain
From what I understand about LEO, they don't draw their guns unless they or someone else is being threatened... who did this guy threaten by walking down the street?

I hope the foulmouthed sergeant finds a job which better suits his personality and skill level... I can't even think of one that should be offered to him.

67 posted on 03/26/2011 8:59:05 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I have never even heard of anything that bad in this country before.

Are you kidding?
This is the same police force that dropped a BOMB on a private home in a residential neighborhood and then held back the firefighters until entire city BLOCKS were burned to the ground.

This guy is lucky to be alive. I always considered Phila cops to be very dangerous dudes who operated with impunity.


68 posted on 03/26/2011 9:54:38 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: petro45acp
That officer has a primary objective every time he gets out of the car, to control the situation.

not even close...

69 posted on 03/26/2011 10:51:08 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Every policeman who opened his/her mouth in that incident needs to be terminated and NEVER work in law enforcement ever again. I have never even heard of anything that bad in this country before. Awful.

Have you changed your mind about police authority in the last two years?

On a thread entitled: Security video shows deputy's alleged assault on girl, 15 you wrote:

"Thanks for that post. At least a few are left who can understand. I don't like the incident occurring, but we have to return to a value system and respect for authority because God put authority there...even Obama (oooh, that hurt)."

70 posted on 03/26/2011 11:46:54 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

In general no, I haven’t changed my mind. However, in this particular case with the audio evidence, the individuals involved need to be prosecuted.


71 posted on 03/27/2011 4:21:07 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Ken H

In general no, I haven’t changed my mind. However, in this particular case with the audio evidence, the individuals involved need to be prosecuted. This one incident does NOT mean ALl policemen and women are that bad. To generalize to that degree is anarchy.


72 posted on 03/27/2011 4:21:49 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: bill1952
This is the same police force that dropped a BOMB on a private home in a residential neighborhood and then held back the firefighters until entire city BLOCKS were burned to the ground.

Really? Which incident is this?

73 posted on 03/27/2011 8:55:38 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: sergeantdave
This isn’t rocket science: cops are pigs who obey orders from their Marxist masters.

I call them 'goons' because that's what they are --hired thugs.

74 posted on 03/27/2011 11:43:04 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This one incident does NOT mean ALl policemen and women are that bad.

Not all citizens are bad, but ALL cops treat them that way until it is proven otherwise.

I say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Since ALL cops approach citizens as if they were murderous perps, then IMO, ALL cops are lying goons who should not be trusted to do the right thing, much less uphold the law.

75 posted on 03/27/2011 11:54:04 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: exnavy

When you look at the list of places (in this country) where you cannot, where the law makers and law enforcement work hand in hand for opportunities to intimidate the 2nd Amendment out of its population...

You have to wonder why anyone here who understands how wrong that is, even care anymore about those places...

If the law enforcement officer took a shot at this guy and missed, would anyone here have been sympathetic at all to the guy if he had returned fire in the defense of his person against this attack???? And possibly stopped the attack by hitting the officer(s)???

It would have been on this audio, if it had happened that way...

What would the sentiments towards the guy be when he was exercising his right to keep and bear arms per the laws agreed to in that state at every moment of this encounter with these law enforcement officers who were not enforceing the law correctly???


76 posted on 03/27/2011 8:01:31 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: freemike

See when we (concealed handgun licensees, Texas) are encouraged to de-escalate situations as a means to prevent a deadly outcome, seems to me some law enforcement types in certain areas in this country need to learn this amazing tool before someone gets hurt...


77 posted on 03/27/2011 8:08:56 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: OneWingedShark
The MOVE confrontation in 1985.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/11/national/main6472296.shtml

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4651126

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/93137669.html

The bombing resulted in 11 deaths (including 5 children) and the destruction of 65 homes in the resulting fires.
An investigative commission formed by the Philadelphia Mayor issued its report on March 6, 1986 denouncing the actions of the city government, stating that “Dropping a bomb on an occupied row house was unconscionable.”
No one from the city government was charged criminally.

78 posted on 03/28/2011 11:17:54 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: grady

ping for later


79 posted on 03/28/2011 11:56:32 AM PDT by grady ("Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading." - Unknown)
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