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US admiral: Carrier killer won't stop US Navy
Associated Press ^
| Feb. 15, 2011
| ERIC TALMADGE
Posted on 02/14/2011 11:29:19 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Question:
If one carrier is targeted by 20 Fu Manchu's Dong Feng missiles, another 20 cruise missiles released hundreds of miles away, 10 torpedoes, can the carrier survive the 50 simultaneous threats?
There are times in combat when quality comes in 2d to quantity. Quantity us what the Commies do. They took 20 million casualties in WWII, a million casualties in Korea, another million in VietNam, killed millions in Gulags ... quantity is what these commie SOBs do.
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posted on
02/14/2011 11:38:08 PM PST
by
Kenny Bunk
(Man up, Mubarak ... you're Air Force and you done OK!)
To: Free ThinkerNY
I suspect we have something up our sleeve that we all just don’t know about yet.
I hope its REAL good. Like a total game changer.
That hyper sonic X-51 Waverider thingy looks real promising.
That’s death coming to you at Mach 6.
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posted on
02/14/2011 11:43:01 PM PST
by
NeverForgetBataan
(To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
To: NeverForgetBataan
Thats death coming to you at Mach 6.I guess there's no need for stealth at that speed.
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posted on
02/14/2011 11:50:22 PM PST
by
TheThinker
(Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
To: NeverForgetBataan
We’ve got lots of stuff up our sleeves. That was a “bring it on” statement from the Admiral regardless of how much Obama hates America.
To: Kenny Bunk
I think that we also need to make the Chinese aware, in no uncertain terms, that if they want to throw conventional weapons with a ballistic missile.... we can do that too.
And they also need to be aware that if a mushroom cloud ever appears over an American aircraft carrier, one will appear over Shanghai and Beijing in quick succession.
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posted on
02/14/2011 11:51:02 PM PST
by
NeverForgetBataan
(To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
To: Kenny Bunk
Your talking about civilian casualties, it will be different when those casualties are inflicted on military troops and logistics lines. Do you think that the USN will be hiding or sitting in port? First of all where will this war be fought? If on land, they will need to be able to deploy these troops and armor and logistics. Secondly, where did they get all this naval war fighting experienece? Sending a bunch of inexperienced subs out to hunt down our fleet will get a good deal of people killed and alot of assets lost.
To: Free ThinkerNY
Chinese sink a carrier(or anything).. we won't owe them a dime..
Target and Walmart will need a whole bunch of new suppliers..
and they will have little or no Navy..
Oh!... and the big old DAM they have.. will need a lot of repair..
AND the Yellow River will just go nutz on them.. down river will be chaos..
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posted on
02/15/2011 12:52:25 AM PST
by
hosepipe
(This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
To: hosepipe
"Chinese sink a carrier (or anything).. we won't owe them a dime.." Agreed.
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posted on
02/15/2011 12:56:37 AM PST
by
NoLibZone
(Obama must be impeached and tried for treason.)
To: Free ThinkerNY
I’ve posted this in a previous thread about carriers at risk. We lost six carriers to enemy action {sank} in WW2. The Langley, Lexington, Yorktown, Wasp, Hornet, and Princeton. The threat was always there and always will be. The more modern systems built by enemies to sink one the more modern system we should build to detect and counter. The Pentagon needs to get on the ball about defense programs.
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posted on
02/15/2011 1:04:55 AM PST
by
cva66snipe
(Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
To: Free ThinkerNY
All they really have to do is launch as much aircraft as possible.
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posted on
02/15/2011 1:44:56 AM PST
by
stuartcr
(Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
To: Kenny Bunk
Based on a couple incidents where Chinese subs popped up close to Carrier groups over the past few years, quantity isn’t the issue... ASW was non existent. i.e.:
NOV 2006, A Chinese submarine came close to the USS Kitty Hawk carrier group in the Pacific Ocean last month, a top U.S. naval commander confirmed Tuesday, adding the encounter could have triggered an “unforeseen” incident.
NOV 2007 American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.
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posted on
02/15/2011 2:31:45 AM PST
by
maddog55
(OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
To: Free ThinkerNY
Its not about transparency its about American Traitors selling and presenting all of our Weapon,satellite and Communication Technology to The Communists on a Silver Platter
To: Free ThinkerNY
China's rising military might will not force the U.S. Navy to change the way it operates Our own Navy is doing that. The Admirals themselves are destroying the Navy by allowing gays to serve.
Already one queer officer who didn't like his FITREP played the "gay card." The Navy is rotting in its very core.
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posted on
02/15/2011 3:08:30 AM PST
by
good1
To: maddog55
Why has the USN deactivated so many ASW assets P-3 Squadrons and closed NAS such as Brunswick in Me? Once you lose these squadrons and their crews you lose valuable training and equipment.
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posted on
02/15/2011 3:28:57 AM PST
by
DeusExMachina05
(I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
To: cva66snipe
Ive posted this in a previous thread about carriers at risk. We lost six carriers to enemy action {sank} in WW2. The Langley, Lexington, Yorktown, Wasp, Hornet, and Princeton. The threat was always there and always will be. The more modern systems built by enemies to sink one the more modern system we should build to detect and counter. The Pentagon needs to get on the ball about defense programs.
We also need to look at why we lost them, and see what lessons were learned. When push comes to shove, only Wasp (a small carrier unsuited to the fight in the Pacific) and Princeton (a light cruiser with a flight deck popped on top) were "real" battle losses. And Wasp was a case of bad luck, wrong place/wrong time situation.
Langley wasn't a carrier. She was a 15-knot coal transport that had 1/2 a flightdeck and was being used as a seaplane tender. She had no ability to provide fighter protection for herself, and was very lightly escorted when sunk.
Lexington was killed by poor damage control tactics. After being hit the CO decided to ventilate the ship. This also pumped high-octane AvGas fumed throughout the ship, which exploded at the first opportunity.
Yorktown was killed by poor damage control tactics. She was abandoned too early, and when determined that she wasn't about to sink and re-boarded there wasn't enough time to patch the damage and get her underway before she was hit by torpedoes from a Japanese sub.
Hornet was killed by poor damage control tactics. Similar to Yorktown, a quicker and better effort to save her would've succeeded. The USN actually failed in their attempt to scuttle her and the job had to be done by the Japanese.
Those lessons-learned resulted in numerous "saves" later in the war. Franklin and Bunker Hill certainly sustained more damage than Lexington, Yorktown and Hornet did. Saratoga took hits more damaging than those that sunk her sister, Lex.
The ability of well-escorted modern US supercarrier to survive hits is beyond impressive. They're not unsinkable, but it's going to take a LOT to put them down. The damage sustained by Forrestal and Enterprise (flight-deck ordinance mishaps) during Vietnam speaks to this. Their ability to avoid hits, even nuclear ones (the results of the Bikini Able and Baker tests showed that it would take a near-direct hit to sink capital ships), is equally impressive.
To: good1
“The Navy is rotting in its very core.”
Yes. Plus the entire armed forces, entire leadership, entire nation.
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posted on
02/15/2011 3:44:44 AM PST
by
ViLaLuz
(2 Chronicles 7:14)
To: NeverForgetBataan
“I suspect we have something up our sleeve that we all just dont know about yet.”
From the article:
“Any new capability is something that we try to monitor,” he (Vice Adm. Scott van Buskirk) said.
“If there wasn’t this to point to as a game changer, there would be something else,” he said. “That term has been bandied about for many things. I think it really depends in how you define the game, whether it really changes it or not. It’s a very specific scenario for a very specific capability some things can be very impactful.”
What is the admiral really saying here? It is a bluff? Do we have response capabilty and he’s not letting on; or are we vulnerable, and he’s not letting on. Either way, it doesn’t sound very reassuring.
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posted on
02/15/2011 4:10:03 AM PST
by
Rennes Templar
( Reagan: " When I was young we were poor, but the gov't didn't have to tell us we were poor")
To: cva66snipe
A friend of mine’s daughter is a surface warfare officer in a carrier battle group. She refers to Destroyers and Frigates in the group as “missile catchers”.....
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posted on
02/15/2011 4:19:06 AM PST
by
Thermalseeker
(The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama will stop our military unless there is a coup.
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posted on
02/15/2011 5:04:40 AM PST
by
crosshairs
(The word for actor in Greek is hypocrite (its true).)
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