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The Collapse of Arab Civilization?
American Thinker ^
| February 13, 2011
| Michael Fraley
Posted on 02/13/2011 8:35:02 AM PST by kingattax
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To: SunkenCiv
Internet accelerated all these changes in underdeveloped countries. There is anger at US/Israel plus there is a strong desire to be like other countries they perceive to be freer.
Wealth is a personal perception. Wasn't it surprising how many iPhones were in Tahrir Square? All the cars of the little people are large sedans. They dress like westerners and 60% of Egypt's population is 25 and younger.
Does anyone know how Soros might be involved in any of this African uprising?
We live in exciting times.
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posted on
02/13/2011 11:19:34 AM PST
by
Lady Jag
(Double your income... Fire the government)
To: SonOfDarkSkies
DITTO THAT!Every Word! Sometimes I feel like I've stepped into an alternate universe
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posted on
02/13/2011 11:24:00 AM PST
by
Fiddlstix
(Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
To: kingattax; SunkenCiv
Arab “civilization” should have collapsed with the advent of tracked vehicles and international laws against the slave trade and brigandry.
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posted on
02/13/2011 11:26:37 AM PST
by
ApplegateRanch
(Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
There will be no Mahdi.
By the end times, temple sacrifice in Jerusalem will be restored.
Ergot, no Islam.
Likely Medina and Mecca will Have been utterly destroyed - which unambiguously disproves the Koran and the Hadith.
Per God’s promise to Hagar the Arabs will still be as big a pain in the ass as ever.
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posted on
02/13/2011 11:35:04 AM PST
by
MrEdd
(Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
To: null and void
They did. Of course, seeing its decline in the present it a bit late. Arab civilization’s decline began with Mohammed and was completed by Al Ghazali, or rather by the universal embrace of Al Ghazali’s occasionalism by Sunni Islam.
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posted on
02/13/2011 11:39:11 AM PST
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: MrEdd
Just for the record, can you give me even one Biblical prophecy that has actually come true on modern times? The revived Israel does not count. They were supposed to rebuild the temple along with that. Doesn't look like that will happen any time soon.
If things are headed towards what you claim, you had better get busy. It looks like the very opposite is a reality.
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posted on
02/13/2011 11:44:23 AM PST
by
PSYCHO-FREEP
(Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
To: Dr. Ursus
Algebra, zero, and that was about it.
Arab's were, at one time, the center of civilization. The works of Rome and Greece were preserved and studied. Medicine, such as it was, was better than in Europe. Scholarship was prized.
Later the attitude towards learning and books became “if they disagree with the Quran they are heresy, if they agree with the Quran they are superfluous - let them burn”
In recalling that past, the modern jihadist fights against the very wellspring of what made that past great.
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posted on
02/13/2011 11:50:11 AM PST
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
To: cripplecreek
Will Greer was sooo great in that role ! One of his best !
To: allmendream
The quotes about "Islamic civilization" in Bagdad and Alexandria, Egypt as centers of learning ignores the fact that both cities had this role for millennium BEFORE Islam. However, both declined in prominence after Islam. Badgad took a few decades (after Muslim conquest). The famous library of Alexandria was deliberately burned by Muslim conquerors.
In short, there is NO Muslim civilization. It is only the claiming of the heritage the prior civilizations had as Islamic as it drives them down to the dust-bin of history.
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posted on
02/13/2011 11:58:23 AM PST
by
tbw2
(Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
To: Lady Jag
Under the various uprising countries’ keywords, there are some topics (Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, more).
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posted on
02/13/2011 12:03:48 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
To: tbw2
Well perhaps it was just the times then, but there was a flowering (at least by contrast to how backwards everywhere else was) of Arab civilization in Baghdad Damascus and Alexandria, but mostly as a co-opting and unification of these great centers of learning.
Much scholarship was also done in their civilization by non-Arabs, including many Jews. Making it ironic that in the modern day they extol the bygone era yet they wish to expunge one of the sources of any claim to greatness of their civilization - that they adopted the learning and practices of older civilized people and allowed them a place in civil society as scholars and doctors and merchants - civilization.
The quote I provided was said as the Library at Alexandria burned.
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posted on
02/13/2011 12:05:46 PM PST
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
To: Lady Jag
But yeah, the population of Egypt is mostly too young to remember a time before Mubarak, so it was a big deal when he left office, regardless of how any one person may have felt about the loss.
And the miniaturized electronics which helped us win the space race and close the missile gap have made it difficult, at best, to keep the lid on. Those poor, misunderstood despots... when the USSR fell apart, it was due to an attempted coup. Boris Yeltsin and others communicated with the outside world via the fax machines, which is what they had, and it was newly ubiquitous technology. Saved their bacon.
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posted on
02/13/2011 12:09:31 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
To: SunkenCiv
the music was way better. (Plink!)I gavest thee this,
(Plank!)I gavest thee that,
(Tinkle!)And still thou
(Plinkity)Wouldst not love me, (pause)
(STRUMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!)Lady Greensleeves!
YEAH! WAY better music...you could understand the words!
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posted on
02/13/2011 12:13:36 PM PST
by
ApplegateRanch
(Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
To: SunkenCiv
the music was way better. (Plink!)I gavest thee this,
(Plank!)I gavest thee that,
(Tinkle!)And still thou
(Plinkity)Wouldst not love me, (pause)
(STRUMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!)Lady Greensleeves!
YEAH! WAY better music...you could understand the words!
54
posted on
02/13/2011 12:13:36 PM PST
by
ApplegateRanch
(Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
To: ApplegateRanch
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posted on
02/13/2011 12:28:28 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Just for the record, you descended into moonbat territory when you attempted to discount the re-establishment of Israel.
Except for this really huge hard to explain away evidence, please give me some things easier to deny.
I suggest the temple will be rebuilt after the fall of Islam.
Allah, as described in the Koran and the Hadith has invested himself in Mecca and Medina. If he exists, those two cities holy to Islam cannot be destroyed. Leveling them will topple the religion, unlike the God of the Bible who is not invested in places, but in people.
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posted on
02/13/2011 12:31:35 PM PST
by
MrEdd
(Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
To: ApplegateRanch
:’) Introduction of the wheel would make their civilization (such as it is) collapse, if that hadn’t happened so long ago.
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posted on
02/13/2011 12:33:28 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
To: cripplecreek
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posted on
02/13/2011 12:49:47 PM PST
by
wolfcreek
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
To: Jack Black
Rome was sacked, for the first time in it's long history in 410 AD.Rome was sacked by the Gauls in 387 BC. That's why we only have the legends about its founding and no written records from before that year.
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posted on
02/13/2011 12:54:08 PM PST
by
Styria
To: kingattax
.....we are truly witnessing the collapse of Arab civilization as a whole, this does not bode well for the western world. The powers able and ready to fill the void are neither friendly toward, nor passive in their attitude toward, the Western states....
Red blooded Americans should never make a pact with the Devil to prevent one of his Serpents.
Be true.
Faust
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posted on
02/13/2011 1:06:03 PM PST
by
Koracan
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