Posted on 02/12/2011 6:18:30 PM PST by kristinn
How about some fun "trivia"...what party was conservative Senator Robert Taft, the leading proponent of the views held by Dr. Paul's (pro-American, non-interventionism)? Here's a hint..."Mr. Republican" was his nickname.
Actually, the Jeffersonian Republicanism of the 1930's wasn't classical Republicanism either. Classical Republicanism was the nineteenth century Puritan heritage of the Federalist, Anti-Masonic, Whig, and Know Nothing parties: loose construction, implied powers, opposition to Jacobinism, a private central bank (take that, Mr. Paul!), a strong industrial base (making for industrial independence), protective tariffs, and public morality (blue laws and laws against liquor). That, my friend, and not Jacobinical Jeffersonianism, is Classic Republicanism!
Excuse me while I heave.
One of his staunchest supporters over the years was Burt Blumert, a Jew who I knew personally and thought the world of just as Dr. Paul did.
So, this Blumert was a member of Neturei Karta?
I honestly thought no one used the "some of my best friends" line anymore other than as a joke.
Ron Paul is of course a Christian, but his faith does not affect his votes in Congress.
Wow. Just . . . wow. You know, a few months ago I saw an article in The Jewish Press where some liberal Orthodox rabbis (who were arguing that the Torah should have no relation to what Jews vote for regarding "gay rights") who made the exact same point . . . that religion shouldn't be the determiner of votes.
Unfortunately, the name of "Robert Taft" is used as an arcane password by Certain People--who are not interested in the actual positions of the actual man.
AS opposed to bugging me, don't you have some pies to consume?
Gosh. All this for stating the very simple objective fact that Buckley was never - by any imaginable definition - a "conservative libertarian."
To answer your question, I don't mix business and pleasure. AQ being the former, FR being the latter. I also never "pimp" AQ, especially here, for reasons that should be obvious to you.
All that said, on behalf of the global English speaking trad community, I would like to extend my thanks. It was YOUR posts here, much like the one I'm responding to, that first inspired AQ.
Bless you.
Keep up the good work!
They are related organizations...one is a non-profit, the other a political organization.
They are technically the same.
I know the vast majority of the small, loud and whacky bunch. I’ve been a conservative operative for many years.
It’s a broad topic.
Ron and Rand Paul are poison for the conservative movement because of the fringe lunatics they attract. They fail to repudiate the lunacy and bait the anti-Semitic tendencies of their supporters, that’s a fact.
Yeah just like ron paul is a faux conservative too especially with that $555,554,184 worth of bogus earmarks he has put in for over the past two fiscal years not to mention all of the other earmarks he's wasted our money on over the years.
Hey! Alexander Hamilton, the Federalists, and the original Republicans were protectionists! (The Confederates, on the other hand, were free traders.)
“And if Kennedy’s constituents thought he was a murderer they had recourse at the ballot box every six years. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t, just means they didn’t care. Just like Paul’s constituents don’t care than he’s a nutcase.”
Not to mention that paul “greases the skids” with plenty of earmarks to get reelected.
And in kennedy’s case, he always ran unopposed and you had no choice but to vote for him or your ballot didn’t count being that there was no provision for an alternative.
“Please tell me, what is a “craven-libertarian?” A meat-eater?”
No, more than likely a mouth breather who blames America for everything.... Like ron paul.
I have become a libertarian. I have never blamed America for anything. But I do blame decades of corrupted and bribed politicians represented by both Parties for reversing the fortunes of our great nation. In 1960 America was the strongest manufacturing nation in the world, we were the world's food breadbasket, the world was indebted to the USA, not vice versa. You could sell a US home and buy 3 in Germany or Europe. Not today.
Much of this came about because they (our elected officials) failed to defend Americans first and our borders. Instead these politicians had our nose in events all over the globe and involved in costly wars that created costly blow back. They failed to defend what was most important - our economy and middle class tax base with an absurd policy of open trade which was really open warfare on all Americans at the behest of international financiers and corporations looking to cut costs and for new markets.
I agree Ron Paul is too old to be President. But I respect him far more than most of what I've seen in the crop of politicians whose principles change based upon the direction of the wind and money from lobbyists. This guy has guts. Most have only interests.
There was a day when we had real US Corporations (not these international conglomerates) where staunch conservative support of corporate America was good for America. If GM or GE did good, eventually it would come back to serve our economy. Those days are long gone unless you have no special support or allegiance for the US Constitution and sovereignty. These multi-natl corporations will sell out (and have) the USA at the drop of a hat. We have too many allegedly "conservative" politicians who are serving only international corporatists not America.
Paulbot: "So.......you're saying that he ACTUALLY HAS A CHANCE?"
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All the folks who enjoy labeling Paul as a lunatic, moonbat, anti-American, anti-war, kook, clown, fraud, traitor, isolationist, truther, racist, and anti-Semite, incessantly fail to mention he is a staunch defender of the Constitution.
Their reason is obvious to even the unpolished observer. Since it’s a fact, he is one of our Constitution’s most adherent defender of all in congress, executive, and justice. Cave dwellers don’t mention this tidbit because they can’t deny it.
Now, does he say some things to cause these reactions? Oh yea, I think sometimes he does. More often than not, in fact. However, the two things he does stand on is his principle, and our Constitution. IMO, there’s nothing nutty about either. And, I really don’t care how much he got returned to Texas for shrimpers, by proxy. That’s pure genius.
Bottomline, I like him where he is...fighting these bass turds in congress tooth and nail to adhere to the Constitution. Can he turn them? We should all be praying he can, and does.
Finally, should he run for President? I think he should, at least in the primaries. Why? Because he is a good teacher. He knows economics, monetary policy, foreign policy, and the Constitution. All of which makes for interesting debates amongst the GOP chosen one’s.
Then, once he has educated the masses, destroyed the arguments of the pre-determined RINOS, he should stand down. But again, it will be his choice to stand down, or not. Should he even decide to run.
Personally, I want Sarah. But she will not be amongst the chosen either. She will have to fight and claw her way in. The RINOS who determine the chosen RINOS will resist her at every step along the way. They will do everything in their power to destroy her...should she decide to run. On this, all can rely.
Ah, a purge? How very Stalinesque of them. I’ve got 10 bucks that says they, along with communist China, also supported socialist dictator Mubarak in his quest to remain in power.
All in the interest of the U.S., huh? Well, neither war that Ron Paul opposes has served the U.S. at all, but has in fact been downright detrimental in almost every aspect - so I guess on account of that they should actually purge themselves right out of their deluded, authoritarian little club instead. It’s a shame how far they have fallen since the 60’s. Ron Paul himself will obviously not suffer from this; as a group that hasn’t been relevant in 40 years, YAF obviously just needs the publicity, but constitutionalist conservatives will do well without them.
As Paul’s political director said, “I hadn’t heard of YAF doing anything in years, I thought they were defunct. Young Americans for Liberty is the group of the future”.
Amen, and good riddance.
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