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US judge may escalate battle over healthcare reform [judge to rule Obamacare unconstitutional]
Reuters ^ | January 31, 2011 | Tom Brown

Posted on 01/31/2011 9:06:09 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction

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To: Qwackertoo

No injunction though. If the judge had a brass set he would have driven a stake into the heart of this monster. Playing it safe? It will not reach the SCOTUS for a year or two during which time the “infrastructure” will steadily be put in place. Really sucks! The lawyers will continue to be engaged and fatten their wallets at taxpayers’ expense. Really, REALLY sucks!!!


41 posted on 01/31/2011 12:09:29 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: evets

someone needs to call Pelosi and tell her a judge read it to find out what’s in it and its unconstitutional


42 posted on 01/31/2011 12:10:16 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

A person would think in the next 6 hours that this would be a fast expanding news alert, such as Shep was pointing out.

I think the MSM will do its “black hole” approach on this, like a million person Tea Party event, if nobody talks about it it never happened.


43 posted on 01/31/2011 12:14:54 PM PST by Eye of Unk (What is YOUR snipe hunt?)
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To: Eye of Unk

Well, you know ... “nothing’s changed.” So it’s not news. /s


44 posted on 01/31/2011 12:16:24 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Well, you know ... “nothing’s changed.” So it’s not news. /s


45 posted on 01/31/2011 12:16:39 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

As my son used to say, Woo hoo! x infinity!!!


46 posted on 01/31/2011 12:18:51 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: ForGod'sSake

It won’t be in place if the GOP House can starve it of funding!


47 posted on 01/31/2011 12:20:17 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: littleharbour
It won’t be in place if the GOP House can starve it of funding!

That's certainly ONE option. A "fast track" to SCOTUS would probably be helpful. The 2012 elections can't come soon enough either. For the life of me I don't understand why these state lawsuits weren't filed from the gitgo in SCOTUS who ostensibly have original jurisdiction in such conflicts. It would maybe end the madness a little sooner but whadda I know. I've never heard a satisfactory explanation why dragging it through the system was a better approach.

48 posted on 01/31/2011 12:39:52 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

They may have needed to establish a sufficient evidentiary basis for the case. The SCOTUS usually deals with legal issues, not findings of fact. I’m just speculating on their real motives.


49 posted on 01/31/2011 1:04:36 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: littleharbour

It’s just my personal opinion but my instincts are that the longer ANYTHING languishes in the court system the better the chance for judicial shenanigans. The courts are a maze the Rats designed and have since cultivated via the ABA for decades. They are almost to the point where the law is what they want it to be. Invariably in favor of bigger and more intrusive government at the expense of our freedoms. Dimtard judges, whether elected or appointed are to a person, partisan hacks who are true believers in the Rats’ maze.


50 posted on 01/31/2011 1:31:14 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: ForGod'sSake
No injunction though.

From what I gather, the law doesn't kick in until 2014 so there really isn't anything to stop right now. Still, good news all around!

51 posted on 01/31/2011 2:53:46 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather
Still, good news all around!

FWIW and IMHO, I'm not entirely convinced. The judge also ruled against the states on a fairly important issue, re the "Spending Clause" or somesuch. Pressed for time, I didn't save a link to the particular article I read but there are probably several out there with more to come. These initiatives by the states are relatively timid(should we expect more?) when other alternatives are considered, for example, NULLIFICATION. It's one thing to huff and puff and take the federales to court, and something else altogether to tell the feral government, "We aren't going to abide by your unconstitutional declarations." A small step in the right direction? Probably. JHMO of course.

52 posted on 01/31/2011 3:30:13 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: ForGod'sSake
These initiatives by the states are relatively timid

What I just posted on another thread -

Flee Levin, on his radio show, just mentioned that the judge issued a federal order. Even Hussein can't go against it otherwise contempt charges could be brought.

53 posted on 01/31/2011 3:35:03 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather
Flee Levin, on his radio show, just mentioned that the judge issued a federal order. Even Hussein can't go against it otherwise contempt charges could be brought.

I'm not sure I follow the rationale. Amongst other things, Judge Vinson ruled the mandate for the proles to participate in odingacare does not kick in til 2014 I believe. He went on to say, if I'm not mistaken that since there is no severability in odingacare as passed, the whole enchilada is then unconstitutional. That's an opinion. So I'm not clear on just what he might be telling the feral government it can't do. If he was serious about stopping it in it tracks, he should have issued an injunction saying as much???

54 posted on 01/31/2011 6:17:56 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
States with lawsuits against Obama Care.    Dark blue states were the first to join the 

Florida lawsuit.   Light blue states joined thereafter.   Green states have independent lawsuits pending.   Together, these states represent 291 electoral 

votes.
A map of the states with lawsuits against Obama Care. Dark blue states were the first to join the Florida lawsuit. Light blue states joined thereafter. Green states have independent lawsuits pending. Together, these states represent 291 electoral votes.
55 posted on 02/01/2011 10:24:22 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

nice map!


56 posted on 02/01/2011 10:28:06 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ForGod'sSake

I don’t see anything on “Free Republic” yet, but Utah’s Attorney General has now claimed that Utah will not be enforcing the law either! They said it would not be enforceable here in Utah. I just read it in an article on “Lucianne.com”!


57 posted on 02/03/2011 2:21:02 AM PST by dsutah
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To: ForGod'sSake

In one of the threads about this that I read here earlier, it was said that this is a federal ruling, which cannot be stayed...it stands until it is overturned, which means the law is unconstitutional and void as of the ruling. An injunction can be stayed immediately, so it is better that this is not an injunction, and because it is a ruling, it doesn’t need an injunction.
I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but that’s how I understood it. :^)

O2


58 posted on 02/03/2011 2:44:23 AM PST by omegatoo (Pray the rosary every day for our country)
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To: dsutah
I don’t see anything on “Free Republic” yet, but Utah’s Attorney General has now claimed that Utah will not be enforcing the law either!

Great! They join a few others and I suspect there will be several more states openly take that position before much longer. IMHO, the risks are minimal to non existent so what have they got to lose.

59 posted on 02/03/2011 11:54:47 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: omegatoo

The arguments on either side are flying fast and furious as we type. IMHO, this needs to be resolved — and soon. The blowback odinga and his politburo is getting from the realm is encouraging but being a bit impatient, not fast enough to suit me. These marxists need to be stopped dead in their tracks before the reversal can begin. Then we can get down to the business of cutting their budget in half and putting the federales back in their cage. Hopefully to never escape again.


60 posted on 02/03/2011 12:04:28 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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