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Hawaii lawmakers want release of Obama birth info
Associated Press ^ | Jan. 27, 2011 | MARK NIESSE

Posted on 01/27/2011 1:51:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: CottShop
actually, one parent has to be a legal citizen over trhe age of 18-

That's only true if the child is born abroad. If the child is born in the USA, unless the parents are diplomats, invaders, or travelers in transit, the child is a natural born citizen, irresepective of the parents' citizenship.

281 posted on 01/30/2011 12:52:21 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

The child must meet the following requirements:

Have at least one American citizen parent by birth or naturalization;

Be under 18 years of age;

Live in the legal and physical custody of the American citizen parent; and

Be admitted as an immigrant for lawful permanent residence.
In addition, if the child is adopted, the adoption must be full and final.

At least one parent of the child is an American citizen by birth or naturalization.

The American citizen parent has been physically present in the United States for a total of at least five years, at least two of which are after the age of 14. If the child’s American citizen parent cannot meet the physical presence requirement, it is enough if one of the child’s American citizen grandparents can meet it.

The child is under the age of eighteen.

The child lives abroad in the legal and physical custody of the American citizen parent and has been lawfully admitted into the United States as a nonimmigrant.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_1312.html


282 posted on 01/30/2011 8:33:07 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
The child must meet the following requirements:

You are listing the requirements for the granting of naturalized citizenship to a child born abroad to at least one US citizen. These requirements have nothing to do with a child born in the USA.

283 posted on 01/31/2011 8:52:08 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

The distinction between ‘natural born citizen’ (A Requirement for presidency) and ‘citizen’ is an important distinction here

citizenship simply requires:

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution stipulates presidential eligibility, requiring the nation’s elected chief to be a “natural born citizen.”

The clause states: “No person except a natural born citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Read more: Investigation: Obama likely not eligible http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=232213#ixzz1CdrVYVUt

Natural born citizens are citizens born of parents who are both legal natural born citizens

The case you are refering to - amendment 14, concerns citizens- not natural born citizens- after year 1986- before hte amendment, the requirements even for a citizen were different- not that that is the issue- the law clearly states a presidental candidate must be a ‘natural born citizen’

The issue is before the courts, and the supreme court is tryign to decide what it means to be a ‘natural born citizen’- We’ll have to wait to see what is determined


284 posted on 01/31/2011 11:21:52 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
Natural born citizens are citizens born of parents who are both legal natural born citizens

The Supreme Court disagrees with you. It is not necessary to have citizen parents if the child is born on US soil.

The issue is before the courts, and the supreme court is tryign to decide what it means to be a ‘natural born citizen’

It already decided the matter over 100 years ago in US v. Wong Kim Ark.

285 posted on 01/31/2011 11:47:49 AM PST by curiosity
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To: JennysCool

You’re probably right, unhappily.


286 posted on 01/31/2011 9:21:07 PM PST by cycjec
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To: curiosity

no sir the supreme court doesn’tr dissagree as they have not made a ruling on the distinction between natural born citizen and citizen- that IS why we are having the issue of ‘anchor babies’ being discussed in congress and court systems to this very day-

[[It already decided the matter over 100 years ago in US v. Wong Kim Ark.]]

Sorry- that was to determine if Kim Ark was a ‘citizen’ or not- NOT whether Kim Ark was eligible to be president or not- again- the statute clearly states that only a natural born citizen can be eligible to be president OR for Vice President- asnd again, this is why the distinction needs to be made clear i nthe courts and congress-

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

nowhere else is the requirement of ‘natural born citizen’ mentiioned for public office EXCEPT in the case of the presidency and vice presidency. Our fouding fathers specifically and temporarily suspended ‘natural born’ so that they and they alone could serve as our founding presidents, after which, the ruling/consitutional provision for ‘natural born’ went into effect

Form ore on the case to determine the distinction between ‘natural born’ and citizen’ classificatrions-pending before hte supreme court see: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=232073


287 posted on 01/31/2011 10:35:42 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: butterdezillion

When ORYR made the audio montage last week, he inexplicably overlooked and left out the Evans statement from the Austin, Texas station that Abercrombie used as search warrant to look over the Hawaiian hospital records. The Evans statement is crystal clear.


288 posted on 02/01/2011 3:23:33 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Looks like Hawaii is trying to cover up mistaken button pushing episode. I wonder if Trump saying his button was bigger has anything to do with the false alert?


289 posted on 01/14/2018 8:57:21 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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