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Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’
New York Times ^

Posted on 12/24/2010 12:47:13 PM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: butterdezillion
...We will not let this rest until all the wrongs over the last 2 years have been righted, Lakin is freed and his livelihood restored, and the crooks who perpetrated this (including at LEAST Abercrombie, Pelosi, Gibbs, Bauer, the Factcheck thugs, Fukino, Okubo, Soros, and Obama) are sitting in jail for a very long time.

APPLAUSE! BRAVO!

141 posted on 12/25/2010 2:52:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Hawaii gov. seeks to combat birthers
HONOLULU – For once the conspiracy theorists who believe Obama was not born in the United States and the president’s defenders are on the same page.

Neil Abercrombie, who was a friend of Obama’s parents when the president was a baby, has only been governor of Hawaii for less than three weeks, but he’s said in interviews this week that he’s already initiated a process to make policy changes that would allow Hawaii to release additional evidence that Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1210/46797.html#ixzz19ALEthBZ


142 posted on 12/25/2010 2:54:12 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: justiceseeker93
“If any of your possibilities are correct, that would mean the MSM has totally broken with Obama to ride with the Dem left’s plans to kick him out of the WH. But that's inconsistent with the “comeback kid” buildup that the MSM is giving him lately regarding his alleged “accomplishments” in the lame-duck congressional session.”

The “comeback kid” is actually the “dead-end” or “dead man walking kid” because DADT and START are the end of Obama’s change and the progressives know it. The left wing orgasm for passing DADT will fade. DOMA could only be repealed by the courts with GOP controlling the House, so Obama is of no further use.

For two years Obama has tried to ram through the most radical bills that he could get through the Senate knowing Pelosi would pass anything through the House...and did!

Now Obama is guaranteed to get _nothing_ through the House and the Senate is far more conservative with 23 Dem senators up for punishment in 2012 for backing what has gone on since 2008.

Obama has driven the Dem Party into the ditch and I can't see that Dems have anything to gain and a lot to lose in 2012 by keeping him. That is my answer for why “Et tu Abercrombie?” and the NY Times have abandoned Obama, IMO.

143 posted on 12/25/2010 3:01:59 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Jet Jaguar

http://images.politico.com/global/news/101225_abercrombie_ap_605.jpg

AP PHOTO

Neil Abercrombie on Barack Obama’s birth: ‘I was here when that baby was born.’

(Neil Abercrombie may have been in Hawaii on April 4, 1961, but where was Stanley Ann Dunham?)


144 posted on 12/25/2010 3:04:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
It suggest to me there never was an original...the 'letter' was made up on the fly, it doesn't follow the speech he made.

Well, some of the phrases in the letter were in Abercrombie's speech (including Kapi'olani as O's place of birth), but not Abercrombie's sign-off, "With great aloha, Barack Obama." Could well be that the letter was created after the speech to try to conform with it, not before. Suppose there's no way of telling definitively.

146 posted on 12/25/2010 3:07:47 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: F15Eagle

Hmmmm...and considering that most mothers spent at least a week in hospital after the birth of a first child in that era, there would have been little time for Abercrombie to see the ‘parents’ at social events in Hawaii...

But we are beginning to the light, aren’t we? The woman named Anna Obama who was discovered living in Seattle MAY have been the wife of the son of a kenyan goat-herder...but she wasn’t Stanley Ann Dunham.

The Kenyan said it himself at an interview in June 1962 - he hadn’t been back to Kenya for seven years, so what the family in Kenya said when interviewed - that he went to the US and worked for an oil company and married a white woman makes sense.

More hmmmm...


147 posted on 12/25/2010 3:25:01 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: butterdezillion
Obama himself has said that he would be embarrassed if the long-form was revealed

He did?

When and how did that happen?

148 posted on 12/25/2010 3:25:42 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: Fred Nerks
“Or between the ‘time of birth’ and when she enrolled at the University of Washington on the 19th of April, 1961?”

You mean 19th of August, 1961? That is what I see on the transcript. I believe that a case was made elsewhere that classes started a month later, IIRC.

149 posted on 12/25/2010 3:27:11 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
...You mean 19th of August, 1961? That is what I see on the transcript. I believe that a case was made elsewhere that classes started a month later, IIRC.

WHOOPS! Sorry, I'm glad you spotted my mistake, yes, it was AUGUST. And it has been established there was no one there at the University of Washington UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

The creators of the transcript made a boo-boo

150 posted on 12/25/2010 3:31:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
“The woman named Anna Obama who was discovered living in Seattle MAY have been the wife of the son of a kenyan goat-herder...but she wasn’t Stanley Ann Dunham.”

The transcript obtained by WND that you posted says that it was the same SADO in Seattle who graduated from Mercer HS and attended U of HI for one semester in the fall of 1960. U of HI records that same SADO returning to HI after BHO Sr left HI.

151 posted on 12/25/2010 3:37:27 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: justiceseeker93
Well, some of the phrases in the letter were in Abercrombie's speech...

SOME.

152 posted on 12/25/2010 3:41:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Seizethecarp

Disentangle himself from the Great Usurpation? It’s it quite interesting that of all the people who are qualified for the governorship that he was elected at this particular time??? He’s the ONLY one on the face of the Earth, now or ever, who’s claimed to have EVER seen Sr. and Ann together. Why would he do that? He’s now come up with a new spin on the tale that he claims to have seen the happy couple showing off the bundle of joy around to friends at social events except NOT ONE of their friends have ever said they’d even known there was a bun in the oven much less had seen the kid. I ain’t buyin’ it. He’s not out to clear up anything and is crazy to go out on that limb because he’s going to get slapped down when he can’t produce the genuine deal - unless he knows without a doubt that the ink has finally dried and he has the new and improved BC in his back pocket already.

The only way I can see this playing out is that Hawaii is deep in debt and he’s out to bilked the White House (aka the US taxpayer) out of million$. Either he knows the truth (very likely) or he’s in on the scam (even more likely) to produce another forgery to the American citizens. However, this time the forgery will be so good it will pass inspection making the “conspiracy” go away (not that it can make the NBC issue go away). The powers that be can’t afford to have this old hippie destroy their house of cards.


154 posted on 12/25/2010 3:45:17 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Seizethecarp

so...let me ask you this...do you believe the Colb posted on fighthesmears is a valid and true Certification of Live Birth for one Barack Hussein Obama, born in Hawaii?

If yes, skip a turn.

If no, then why would you assume the transcript was a true and valid record? What provenance have you been shown?


155 posted on 12/25/2010 3:46:04 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: F15Eagle
...I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part...

See second last paragraph...Obama, who has been away from Kenya for seven years...

OK NOW! Just how observant are we? What does that tell you about the AIRLIFT MYTH AND THE 'FRIENDSHIP' WITH HIS BENEFACTOR MBOYA!

158 posted on 12/25/2010 3:57:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: F15Eagle
There are no U of HI records, there are no Mercer Island High School records.

This is all there is from Hawaii...

Why no transcript? Whose name may have been on that Fall of 1960 attendance?

159 posted on 12/25/2010 4:05:30 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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