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Giant Stealth Planet May Explain Rain of Comets from Solar System's Edge
Space.com ^ | 12/01/2010 | Space.com

Posted on 12/04/2010 7:32:45 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

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Shaaah - and monkeys might fly out of my butt!

41 posted on 12/04/2010 9:50:18 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: ClearCase_guy

I was sad that day.

actually happened to me..I am a corrections officer at a juvenile facility....one of the kids actually asked me..Officer Terry, were you really sad when all the dinosaurs died??? He meant it, I am in my 70’s and he was about 13


42 posted on 12/04/2010 9:55:34 PM PST by terycarl (interested and informed)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Jostled outer or inner Oort causes mass extinctions...pythonesque!


43 posted on 12/04/2010 10:07:09 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Is there a chance this planet is situated off the Solar System’s orbital plane? Also 200K degrees does not seem all that cold to me.


44 posted on 12/04/2010 10:12:59 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Party is shovel ready)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

It’s Planet Esyoovi, of course.


45 posted on 12/04/2010 10:14:10 PM PST by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Actually, their not dark, but nice and blue...and visible even with simple binocs...and they’re much much closer.


46 posted on 12/04/2010 10:29:04 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: catfish1957

They don’t actually see those planets, they see them wobble. The more the wobble, the more the mass of the planet. The frequency of the wobble explains how fast the planet orbits the star. Most of these planets are very large. Larger than Jupiter.

It would be more difficult to observe a brown dwarve star in our region of space because it is basically dark and we would not be able to observe much wobble from our sun or other planets in the solar system from our vantage point. If we were observing the Sun from the Andromeda galaxy, it would probably be obvious if we had a companion star or not.

Disclaimer1: I am not a scientist but I watch Netflix/Nova.
Disclaimer2: I do not endorse/deny this theory because of disclaimer 1.


47 posted on 12/04/2010 10:38:56 PM PST by Crispy
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To: Secret Agent Man
We found Neptune and Uranus out there and they are big and cold and dark. This thing is 4x Jupiter. It should have some measurable effect we’d be able to notice somehow.

Uranus is a mere 18 AU away from earth, Neptune is 30 AU. This hypothetical planet is 30,000 AU away, half a light year. That's pretty far.

48 posted on 12/04/2010 10:46:39 PM PST by Drew68
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

The gravitational effects should be explained via general relativity, no?


49 posted on 12/04/2010 11:11:23 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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“...this red dwarf...”

Isn’t that a space garbage scow? Oh, right, it was a mining ship that looked like a garbage scow, LOL.

Red Dwarf: The Complete Guide
http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/index.cfm

;>D


50 posted on 12/04/2010 11:26:09 PM PST by RebelTex (FREEDOM IS EVERYONE'S RIGHT! AND EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY!)
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To: WorldviewDad

Let me try to simplify:

The article is saying that, like many many star systems, ours is actually a binary system. The other “star” is actually a failed star. It never got big enough for fusion to start, so it’s really just a giant gas planet. It orbits so far out that our one functioning star’s energy barely reaches it. Thus, over the eons, it has cooled to the point where it won’t even register in infrared, and since its a gas planet, it has no hard surface to reflect what small amount of light is available out there.

There are plenty of “cold suns” out there. Some are brown dwarfs, or almost-suns that never quite got going, like the one hypothesized in the article, and some are white dwarfs, or the non-fusing remnants of stars that have died. White dwarfs still emit light but no other energy, as any star produces so much energy at its core that a vast amount of photons become trapped by the pressure of the surrounding reactions, and only escape once the star has died.


51 posted on 12/04/2010 11:35:02 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Crispy

Nova is great. We usually think that the bodies in a solar system, like ours, orbits the parent star, but that is not entirely correct. Everything in the system including the star orbits the center of gravity of the system...which is extremely close, if not inside the star itself. Thus, the star orbiting this point looks to us like a wobble. Ingenious method, and we’ve only been looking for planets this way for 15 years. Soon, well have even better methods and tech.


52 posted on 12/05/2010 12:09:30 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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53 posted on 12/05/2010 1:08:01 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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It's level 350, has 20 billion hit points and it's prime attribute is stealth.

It's teh rouge star.

54 posted on 12/05/2010 1:26:43 AM PST by this_ol_patriot (I work so those on welfare don't have to.)
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To: crazydad

I’ve got his books. Packed in a box in storage. I never got around to reading them all. Will have to dig them out.

IIRC, he said that the Sumerians described Neptune perfectly, some details we didn’t know exactly until the Voyager probe made it’s fly-by.


55 posted on 12/05/2010 4:06:15 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: catfish1957
"We are finding planets several light years away, but can not find one on the edge of our own solar system? That makes no sense what so ever."

If you understand how planet detection is done, it makes perfect sense. Astronomers look for a "wobble" in the path of a distant star as it moves in its orbit.

To see that very tiny wobble requires a very long distance separation between the "measuring point" and what is being measured.

The earth is simply too close to our own sun to be able to detect that "wobble" in ITS path.

56 posted on 12/05/2010 4:08:52 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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If a body that massive were to arrive in the inner solar system by Dec of 2012, you would already be able to see it with the naked eye... so that’s not it.

Want Plant X?

Well Here you go:
NIBIRU, PLANET X, ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS, NASA, MARS, EARTH
http://xfacts.com/x1.htm


57 posted on 12/05/2010 5:25:12 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: ZOOKER
This movie, made in 1951, has been remade. The new When Worlds Collide will be released in 2012

They're remaking it? The original is great -- I have the DVD. But... I can't find "After Worlds Collide", even the book (though I haven't looked in a while --- Amazon has them from $75!!!!!).

58 posted on 12/05/2010 8:13:58 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: AFreeBird

Yes, also the sumerians had mars described also.. I think all of the sumerian writing should be studied by the churches and the old testament printed as it was written. Most of the Old Testament was just hebrew writers decyphering the old sumerian texts... I always wondered why the churches would never seriously take up the things written?


59 posted on 12/05/2010 9:54:26 AM PST by crazydad
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To: Little Pig
Thank you for continuing to highlight my point...we are now continuing to discuss a star that has not been seen, observed, and nothing points to it's actual existence...but now we are adding more descriptions to describe this star that we have not seen to explain why we have not seen it. It is now a “failed star” that never “got big enough”...even though it is a “jumbo Jupiter”, so it is huge but too small...we have not seen it but we know that it is far away and that energy from our sun does not reach it...even though we do not know where this thing is that we have not seen. We some how know that it is old...”over the eons”...and that it once was hot...”it has cooled”...that it is not solid...”gas plant, it has no hard surface”...and that it is in the dark...”small amount of light is available out there”...even though we do not know where “there” is.

I have read a lot of research reports and articles over the years that once a person actually looks at the facts, data, and actual evidence used, a person realizes that most of what you just read is 90% made up in some body’s mind. But this is not how most people have been taught how to think. If it is listed as a “scientific paper” or is linked to a college, university, or “scientific research organization” then most people will just accept what is printed in the title of the article or what is said in the first paragraph or two...which is normally the hypothesis and not the actual evidence. Hence the reason some still buy into “global warming” that had to be changed to “climate change” once people actually looked at the facts and data.

So in conclusion...let me simplify...scientists should study and hypothesize about what they observe and then test the hypothesis through scientific research...the actual study of facts. Once the hypothesis has been proven to a reasonable degree of certainty then publish the findings. Otherwise if all they are publishing is a hypothesis that has NO facts, data, evidence to support it then they are publishing a work of fiction...”vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called”

60 posted on 12/05/2010 10:59:10 AM PST by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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