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DeLay Guilty of Money Laundering
Houston Press ^ | 11/24/10 | Unknown

Posted on 11/24/2010 3:18:25 PM PST by Non-Sequitur

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To: Hilda

I only refer to a previous FR post which cites the Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7308872.html


81 posted on 11/24/2010 4:08:25 PM PST by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: Non-Sequitur

If he did the crime, he should do the time.


82 posted on 11/24/2010 4:09:05 PM PST by unkus
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To: Psalm 144

I think .. I hope... how can DeGuerin appeal for less Draconian sentences?

I’d say I can’t believe these verdicts, but I live here.

I mean, what did Ken Lay get?


83 posted on 11/24/2010 4:09:24 PM PST by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: socialism_stinX

He tried to get a change of venue to El Paso, I believe, and was shot down.


84 posted on 11/24/2010 4:11:22 PM PST by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: Rational Thought

Meanwhile, Wrangle walks away, to be ‘censured’.


85 posted on 11/24/2010 4:11:47 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Non-Sequitur

This is bullshit!!!! Nothing but a political witch hunt.


86 posted on 11/24/2010 4:14:10 PM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: Hot Tabasco

after 11 years on Freeper, you don’t know who DeLay is? “Get im out of office”!?

I am tired of defending you. No sympathy for you Tabasco.


87 posted on 11/24/2010 4:14:16 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

This was tried in Austin, the San Fransicko of Texas. He couldn’t get a fair trial among so many sniveling leftists.

Move the trial to another venue and he’ll be aquitted.


88 posted on 11/24/2010 4:15:24 PM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

If only he had stolen and destroyed classified materials from the Library of Congress he could have gotten off with 3 years probation like Sandy Berger. But then, Tom is not a Democrat.


89 posted on 11/24/2010 4:16:11 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: deport

The article reveals that it was Texans For Public Justice which brought the complaint. Guess who fund them?
Soros.


90 posted on 11/24/2010 4:16:47 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

And Rev. Charlie Rangel gets a severe talking-to.....


91 posted on 11/24/2010 4:18:11 PM PST by clintonh8r ("Let them eat lobster cake." Michele Antoinette, vacation #6.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Justice’s hammer falls on “the Hammer.” Never liked DeLay. Didn’t follow the case. Not surprised at the outcome.


92 posted on 11/24/2010 4:18:43 PM PST by newzjunkey (groped by Obama's TSA / an expired "Bush taxcut" = Obama Tax Increase)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Basically yes. But again, when this occurred, even if he did know, there were no laws against it at the time. It is my understanding that part of campaign finance laws regarding this, were written and made law years later.


93 posted on 11/24/2010 4:19:32 PM PST by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

I dismiss the local crap and hope saner heads prevail at higher levels. BUT, any prosecution should include Democrats who are just as, or more, guilty.


94 posted on 11/24/2010 4:19:56 PM PST by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: gidget7

This mirrors what I said. I have heard Delay explain this and there is NO WAY he is guilty of anything. Franky, investigate and prosecute the Democrats perpetrating this fraud.


95 posted on 11/24/2010 4:23:23 PM PST by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Ummmm Tabasco? He hasn’t been IN office, for years now.


96 posted on 11/24/2010 4:24:03 PM PST by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
(Tom) DeLay jurors warned to focus on case - "too many unrelated questions" (legal decision today?) (Houston Chronicle ^ | Nov. 23, 2010, 7:31PM | R.G. RATCLIFFE )

The jury of six men and six women consists of a Republican, six Democrats, two independent conservatives and three independent liberals, DeLay said...

The forewoman, a Greenpeace activist named Katie Stotts, studied anthropology at Southwestern University in Georgetown. A full list of jurors is sealed...


97 posted on 11/24/2010 4:24:14 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: gidget7
"But again, when this occurred, even if he did know, there were no laws against it at the time. It is my understanding that part of campaign finance laws regarding this, were written and made law years later."

Ex post facto - that is to say when a law is passed to criminalize a prior act, it's unconstitutional because of the prohibition of ex post facto in Art. I, Sec 10. I don't know the particulars of the relevant TX money laundering and campaign finance statutes, but to assert that he's being prosecuted with an ex post fact law, seems profoundly unlikely.

98 posted on 11/24/2010 4:25:37 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Houston PING


99 posted on 11/24/2010 4:25:37 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: txhurl

DeGuerin will doubtless have planted many seeds for appeal. Any competent defense attorney does, and he -was- top notch. Whether he still is or not I have no idea, but most litigators only have a peak for a few years. Still, he was very good indeed.

Anyway, deliberate grounds will have been introduced into the record, and thorough review of the written transcript usually yields something. As others have pointed out though, the standard for reversal is very high, as the trial court is always given great deference.

Reversals happen, but they are rare. Look for a significantly reduced sentence from the maximum possible. That usually serves to let out the steam from a gross injustice, and people accept the significant injustice with relief that is was not a total injustice.

Our criminal law system is very, very broken. Sometimes for the state, sometimes for the defendant. Depends on when, where and the charges. It does not protect victims, does not deter offenders, and does not preserve rights. It does churn a lot of money, political influence, and career enhancements however. My contempt for it verges on absolute. I am sick thinking about it, so shall sign off for the night, and think of things to give thanks for, and people to pray for, among them Mr. Tom DeLay.

Happy Thanksgiving to all. Watch and pray.


100 posted on 11/24/2010 4:27:11 PM PST by Psalm 144
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