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Avoid Social Issues, GOP Urged (Homosexualists, Pro-Aborts Co-opt Tea Party Movement)
Politico ^ | Sunday, November 14, 2010 | Ben Smith and Byron Tau

Posted on 11/14/2010 3:38:40 PM PST by kristinn

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To: Pan_Yan

First time I’ve ever seen Jim Zot trolls live on-screen. Impressive.

Zot!!

Splat!


201 posted on 11/14/2010 7:21:59 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Rome2000

In what actual CP document (name date, etc) were these Communist goals published (and know the Naked Communist is good enough)? Give us a citation to the original CP document he “quoted” from.


202 posted on 11/14/2010 7:22:16 PM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: little jeremiah

“Libertarianism is merely the ultra kook fringe of leftism.”

You have no idea what a Libertarian is. They are strict Constitutionalist that believe moral issue is the choice of the individual and not to be supported with any tax money. So if someone decides to become a alcoholic, I do not have to hire him, I have a right to fire him, I don’t have to pay for his treatment through taxes or increase in my health insurance cost. Alcoholism his problem and he must take responsibility for it.


203 posted on 11/14/2010 7:22:42 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: LomanBill
The sentiment that galvanized Tea Party folks into assembly this time was the demoralized perversion manifested in the systemic corruption of our national financial infrastructure and the thieving BAILOUT of the "Fiscally Conservative" moral miscreants who corrupted it. "What it basically means is:..... to change the perception of reality of every American.... that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow..

Worthy of another post....thanks...great wordage!

204 posted on 11/14/2010 7:23:36 PM PST by caww
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To: behzinlea
You have a rattlesnake poised to sink its fangs into your ankle, and a constrictor about to coil itself around your neck. Which battle do you attend to first?

Clever analogy. I guess I will give in to your logic and go the route of cleaning the garage and simultaneously mowing the lawn. Or is that not a deadly enough analogy? Pick only one of your kids?

205 posted on 11/14/2010 7:23:41 PM PST by bobzeetwin
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To: kristinn

The primary reason the Tea Party has been so successful is it has avoided social issues altogether. Social issues are the single greatest dividing issue among conservatives. We should stay focused and avoid those arguments until we get our government under control.

Fiscal policy is a science not an opinion or moral position. Numbers are numbers and we can all agree the numbers are way out of line. SoCons need to put their “issues” on the back burner until we can purge our government of progressives and get our financial future back on track. Otherwise we’ll be fighting a multi-front war of which we will NOT win. Stay focused and keep up the momentum, the left will try and side track us with these social issues to dilute the sound argument that government is out of control, which leads to THEIR social agenda.


206 posted on 11/14/2010 7:23:57 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: steveab
While libertarians drone on and on about how an ideal society should operate, we're getting steamrollered by actual society as designed and implemented by liberals. Save your breath, roll up your sleeves, and FIGHT, damn it!
207 posted on 11/14/2010 7:27:36 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: Captain Kirk; Rome2000
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

208 posted on 11/14/2010 7:27:36 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: steveab

BS. There was a thread not long ago with an article from the Official Libertarian Party website with the Official Libertarian Party Agenda in detail.

“Gays” in the military.

“Gay” marriage.

“Gay” everything else.

Legal abortion.

Legalized all drugs.

Legal porn without restriction.

IOW, forcing leftist social crap on everyone whether they want it legal or not.

Libertarianism is yet another utopian fantasy pipe dream in a long line of similar utopian fanatasy pipe dreams. None have ever worked, and none ever will.


209 posted on 11/14/2010 7:27:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: 50mm

IATDZ (in after the double zot)


210 posted on 11/14/2010 7:30:00 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's Easy! Use FR to Pimp Your Blog!)
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To: RockyMtnMan

Well said. Prepare to have your intelligence, patriotism, and motives attacked.


211 posted on 11/14/2010 7:30:00 PM PST by bobzeetwin
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To: RockyMtnMan

Social liberalism costs money. Fight both social and fiscal liberalism or lose.


212 posted on 11/14/2010 7:31:03 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: bobzeetwin
Clever analogy. I guess I will give in to your logic and go the route of cleaning the garage and simultaneously mowing the lawn. Or is that not a deadly enough analogy? Pick only one of your kids?

Too late. Both snakes struck while you mused over your answer and took no action.

RIP.

213 posted on 11/14/2010 7:31:26 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: behzinlea

Libertarians vote and likely vote in large numbers, they are typically well versed in the issues. What sort of fight did you have in mind? Milton Friedman described himself as a libertarian with a small “L” but voted Republican out of necessity. Most libertarians would probably describe themselves the same way.


214 posted on 11/14/2010 7:33:16 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: RockyMtnMan
SoCons need to put their “issues” on the back burner until we can purge our government of progressives and get our financial future back on track.

The problem is that social liberals will NOT put their issues on the back burner. The entire democrat party is made up of single issue candidates, most of which are social issues. They will not give up their single issue for the sake of fiscal conservatism. Halting liberalism on one front while giving ground on the other is a very dangerous strategy. It plays right into Margret Thatcher's Ratchet Theory.

215 posted on 11/14/2010 7:33:43 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: kristinn

Sorry, guys, but you abandon LIFE, I abandon YOU!

This is a line I WILL NOT cross. No way, no how.

I check the candidates positions, and if they aren’t clear on this issue or dance around it, they don’t get my vote. Period.

I am NOT going to one day look in the eyes of my Lord and say, “You know, I knew he was all for slaughtering unborn babies, but I was more concerned with my taxes.” UGH.

Fortunately, I have noticed that most candidates that are fiscally conservative tend also to be pro-life.


216 posted on 11/14/2010 7:34:32 PM PST by Shelayne (He who testifies to these things says, "Yes, I am coming quickly" Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! *Rev 22:20)
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To: bobzeetwin; RockyMtnMan
Well said. Prepare to have your intelligence, patriotism, and motives attacked.

Or get a zot.

One more time: FR's God-given Life & Liberty constitutional conservative activism agenda!!

217 posted on 11/14/2010 7:34:57 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: bobzeetwin; RockyMtnMan
Well said. Prepare to have your intelligence, patriotism, and motives attacked.

But not all at once. Each must be attacked serially, in certain order, only after divining which strategy will offend the fewest number of liberals.

218 posted on 11/14/2010 7:35:33 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: little jeremiah

Hey troll, I don’t about their “gay” agenda. All know is two gay guys that I have had done business with for over twenty years and they are just as piss as you are over the nanny state.
Do you believe that they have less Constitutional rights then you do?


219 posted on 11/14/2010 7:36:33 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: RockyMtnMan

The sole result of people voting libertarian (in the low single digit percentages, not exactly “large”) is that they make it so Republicans lose to Dems.

The LP agenda is described partially above, as it was posted on FR not long ago. The LP is the ultra ultra kook wingnut fringe of the left.


220 posted on 11/14/2010 7:36:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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