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Avoid Social Issues, GOP Urged (Homosexualists, Pro-Aborts Co-opt Tea Party Movement)
Politico ^ | Sunday, November 14, 2010 | Ben Smith and Byron Tau

Posted on 11/14/2010 3:38:40 PM PST by kristinn

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To: wagglebee

Bingo.

And right now, the lack of those things is winning the publick to their importance.

There is no reason to compromise.


121 posted on 11/14/2010 5:34:45 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: kristinn

The right to buggery is protected under the 9th and 10th amendments of the Constitution. If a state does not prohibit it (and states should have the right to prohibit it, Lawrence v. Texas notwithstanding) then trying to use the federal government to push anti-sodomy laws is not even close to constitutional.


122 posted on 11/14/2010 5:35:28 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: counterpunch

So you’re back trying to disguise yourself as a conservative? You’re one of the biggest RINO defenders around here, including Scott Brown, and you have the gall to attack the Tea Party, let alone the site owner?


123 posted on 11/14/2010 5:38:32 PM PST by rintense
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

TEA PARTY means ‘Taxed Enough Already”. It seeks to reduce government in our every day lives.

Now if you want to campaign on anti-abortion or anti-homosexual agenda, you are not going to find it in the Tea Party.

That’s the beauty of the Tea Party, its solely focused on shrinking government.


124 posted on 11/14/2010 5:39:12 PM PST by WaterBoard
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To: little jeremiah
Little jeremiah, do you still support a federal abortion ban in complete violation of the 10th amendment to the constitution? All powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the states and to the people. Once Roe v. Wade is reversed, the matter will be sent back to the states, and they can deal with it as they see fit. Most states will either outlaw it or place heavy restrictions on it. A few (New York, Massachusetts, and most of the northeast) will continue to allow it. That's what federalism is all about.

Supporting federal action on social issues is anathema to conservatism. Read your Constitution for once instead of just using it as a convenient reference for a talking point. If you want to ban things at the federal level without running afoul of the Constitution, you need to pass Constitutional amendments. Unless you're a liberal, that is.

125 posted on 11/14/2010 5:40:02 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: WaterBoard

Reposted especially for RINO/CINO trolls like you:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2627159/posts

DON’T TREAD ON ME!!


126 posted on 11/14/2010 5:42:14 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: wagglebee
Hmm I tried pinging this but it didn't work, I keep getting "proxy error" - good thing, since you got it first! Anyway, I copied my mini-rant:

Here it comes, with at least one representative right on this thread. Leftists with a label "Republican" or "conseravtive" but promoting abortion, homosexual agenda crap and so on are nothing but enemies of the Constitution. Couple points - fiscal conservatism but socially liberal always turns into fiscal liberalism; it's a fiction/fantasy that never has worked and never will. Why? because socially liberal policies first of all cost big money to force down peoples' throats, monitor, and then to clean up the human debris that results. Second, socially moderate/liberal Republics never win. Third, since so many people don't want to swallow the agenda, force is needed to shove it on unwilling people, so it's nothing by tyranny anyway.

Please note that the GOProud is not conseravtive at all, it's merely another incarnation of the Log Cabin "Repugs" whose goal is to transmogrify the Republican Party into another tentacle of the homosexual "rights" movement. 90% of the GOProud's legislative agenda is clearcut straight across homo-nazi agenda issues - from same sex marriage to perverts in the military.

And you know what group filed suit to force the military to accept open perverts? Why, the Log Cabin Repugs. Neither the GOProud or the Logs are conservative in any way, shape or form. They are trojan horses trying to force the GOP to the left. They just happen to like guns a little bit and woudln't mind paying less taxes.

127 posted on 11/14/2010 5:42:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: ari-freedom
We are more likely to win over blacks and Hispanics with social conservatism.
Karl Rove spent a decade trying to win over blacks and hispanics, and all he got out of it was a Democrat House, Senate, and president.
Republicans would do well concentrating on being responsive to the desires of the majority of Americans, rather than catering to constituencies. We've had way too much of that from both sides for decades now. It's what has brought America to the brink of collapse.
 
128 posted on 11/14/2010 5:44:05 PM PST by counterpunch ("Some election nights are more fun than others" - Baraq Hussein 0bama)
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To: WaterBoard; kristinn; Jim Robinson; little jeremiah; metmom; xzins; P-Marlowe; trisham
Now if you want to campaign on anti-abortion or anti-homosexual agenda, you are not going to find it in the Tea Party.

That’s the beauty of the Tea Party, its solely focused on shrinking government.

The nation's fiscal problems were largely created by the fact that there are 52 MILLION MURDERED AMERICANS who should be paying taxes but aren't.

129 posted on 11/14/2010 5:44:05 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: VADoc1980

Reposted especially for RINO/CINO trolls like you:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2627159/posts

DON’T TREAD ON ME!!

Troll sighting!!

ZOT!!


130 posted on 11/14/2010 5:44:37 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: VADoc1980; little jeremiah; kristinn; Jim Robinson; metmom; xzins; P-Marlowe; trisham
Little jeremiah, do you still support a federal abortion ban in complete violation of the 10th amendment to the constitution?

Have you ever actually read the Constitution?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I'll give you a hint, chief among the Blessings of Liberty is life for without it all other blessings are moot. The term posterity means those generations NOT YET BORN.

In his opinion in Roe, Blackmun even noted that if the unborn are persons then they have FULL Constitutional rights and abortion is unconstitutional.

Do YOU believe the unborn are persons? YES or NO.

131 posted on 11/14/2010 5:51:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: counterpunch

“Karl Rove spent a decade trying to win over blacks and hispanics, and all he got out of it was a Democrat House, Senate, and president.”

And now we have Senator-elect Rubio, a GOP hispanic governor in New Mexico and the 23rd Texas House seat. But no, we just have to have our Pete Wilson’s, Arnold’s and Meg Whitman’s.


132 posted on 11/14/2010 5:52:00 PM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: counterpunch

There is no need to join with GopProud on anything. They do not have numbers nor do they represent numbers. Their very presence is divisive and I doubt that is an accident. Tea Party Patriots were stupid to join in any statement with them.


133 posted on 11/14/2010 5:52:22 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Please note...”Tea Party Patriots” did not sign this statement...some misguided people associated with TPP did.


134 posted on 11/14/2010 5:54:11 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: counterpunch
Tokyo Rove is a Soros funded globalist who engineered the governments strategy to keep the seizure of 255 metric tonnes of Iraqi uranium yellow-cake out of the public eye.

He is, most likely the closes approximation (light years away) of a conservative you can find that agrees with the policies you espouse.

135 posted on 11/14/2010 5:56:02 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: wagglebee

Then your saying woman are responsible for our economic mess? :)


136 posted on 11/14/2010 5:57:35 PM PST by WaterBoard
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To: B Knotts

Then those, “misguided people” need a public rebuke ASAP.


137 posted on 11/14/2010 5:57:57 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: ari-freedom

And look at what Marco Rubio, Susana Martinez, and Francisco Canseco ran on: fiscal conservatism and reigning in Big Government.

I should remind all of you, that taxpayer subsidized abortion funding, state protected abortion on demand, and states redefining marriage are all products of activist Big Government running wild. I’m arguing that the entire social conservative agenda can be advanced on a platform of limiting the size and scope of government, because it all falls under that, without the need to open up a divisive debate that will only hamper conservative efforts.


138 posted on 11/14/2010 6:03:11 PM PST by counterpunch ("Some election nights are more fun than others" - Baraq Hussein 0bama)
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To: WaterBoard; All

That is correct... The real world is much different than freeper world...


139 posted on 11/14/2010 6:03:23 PM PST by KevinDavis (President Obama: The Crybaby in Chief...)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

They do. I just want to make sure everyone understands that these people are trying to divide and conquer by making us think that TPP is taking this anti-family position, when it’s really just some “coordinators” and “activists.”


140 posted on 11/14/2010 6:08:42 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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