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France desperate for Rafale sales in Persian Gulf
United Press International ^ | Oct. 25, 2010

Posted on 10/25/2010 11:21:00 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 10/25/2010 11:21:03 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A jet that specializes in surrendering. Interesting french concept.


2 posted on 10/25/2010 11:24:08 AM PDT by edcoil (No "D's" for me!)
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With the weakness of the dollar and the unmatched combat record of the F-15, F-16 and the advance technology of the Joint Strike Fighter the Rafale is a hard sell.


3 posted on 10/25/2010 11:26:23 AM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: edcoil

Well at least the French do not elect Muslims to run their country. The USA does.


4 posted on 10/25/2010 11:27:00 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

If any place is a militatry sellers market it would be the Persian Gulf.


5 posted on 10/25/2010 11:27:56 AM PDT by AU72
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Euro Fighter, the Gripen, the F/A-18 Super Hornet, and the F-35 will be the end of the Rafael IMO.


6 posted on 10/25/2010 11:44:25 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I don’t know about current French jets, but those Mirages did some serious damage to the Brits Navy during the Falklands. Maybe that’s before they started putting so many reverse gears (for retreating) in them.

How come we can’t sell some F-22’s to the Gulf states instead of shutting those lines down? I guess the answer is Obama...


7 posted on 10/25/2010 12:17:38 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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The SLAM has a range of up to 160 miles

Thats a mofo of a missile in any league...

8 posted on 10/25/2010 12:40:28 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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The Rafale is as good if not better than most of those jets. The thing that signalled its end is the lack of commitment from the French military itself.


9 posted on 10/25/2010 7:21:54 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
How come we can’t sell some F-22’s to the Gulf states instead of shutting those lines down? I guess the answer is Obama...
Bush didn't want to sell the F-22 to Japan. You wan t us to give our air defense crown jewels to which Wahabbi nation?
10 posted on 10/25/2010 9:02:00 PM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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Given the failure of the French to help Taiwan upkeep their Mirage 2000s, why would anyone purchase Rafales?


11 posted on 10/25/2010 9:03:51 PM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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Well those are too widely different issues. For one Taiwan was just dumb to buy the Mirage-2000 from France when everyone knew that the Europeans would shut them out sooner than later. The aircraft has done just about perfectly with pretty much every other air arm.

The French have just one policy-follow the money.


12 posted on 10/25/2010 9:10:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Rafale is a pretty old design is in not?

To bad there are not advanced war games out there that fellows like you me and some other folks could play!


13 posted on 10/26/2010 1:10:20 AM PDT by valkyry1
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Same age as the Gripen/Eurofighter and younger than the US teen and Soviet/Russian standard offerings. As far as basic design goes.

A very neat review of the aircraft-

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/09/334383/flight-test-dassault-rafale-rampant-rafale.html


14 posted on 10/26/2010 1:14:39 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: rmlew

Who says we have to sell the F-22 with all the bells and whistles on it?

In a game of ‘strategy’, I’ll take squadrons of F-35’s over a couple hundred F-22’s

Just my $0.0002 on the topic.


15 posted on 10/26/2010 1:14:51 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: bill1952

Lynyrd Skynyrd “you got that right”


16 posted on 10/26/2010 1:17:15 AM PDT by valkyry1
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As far as costs goes, squadrons of F-35 are becoming increasingly difficult to come by.


17 posted on 10/26/2010 1:17:31 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: rmlew
"You wan t us to give our air defense crown jewels to which Wahabbi nation?"

I just want to keep those lines open until we can get a President in there who will make the investment for us to have these jets. We're going to be selling the F-35s to these countries pretty soon IMO. I don't think we have anything to fear from Saudi Arabia's government. Their in house zealots, yes, but not the government.
18 posted on 10/26/2010 4:40:22 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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The F-15S and F-16 Block 60 outclass anything Iran has. There is no need to risk the F-22.

Selling the F-22 to Japan is another story entirely.

19 posted on 10/26/2010 9:44:33 AM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I just want to keep those lines open until we can get a President in there who will make the investment for us to have these jets.
Sell to Japan.

We're going to be selling the F-35s to these countries pretty soon IMO.
I think its a stupid idea.

I don't think we have anything to fear from Saudi Arabia's government. Their in house zealots, yes, but not the government.
They are Wahabis. They share the theological goals of Al Qaeda,opposing the tactics of Salafist Jihadis. The Saudi regime is corrupt and unstalbe. I don't see it surviving. It can't create jobs for the rising youth, which it indoctrinated in Wahabbism.

20 posted on 10/26/2010 9:48:31 AM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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