Posted on 10/24/2010 10:06:20 AM PDT by WebFocus
Unfortunately, many of these refugees have brought the same attitudes with them that destroyed Kalifornia, and they working hard to try the same failed nostrums here, in the hope it will succeed this time.
It won't, and it can't. But it doesn't mean they won't try like hell.
Isn't that the classic definition of insanity?
We talked about alot of things economic & political and believe me, I was the redneck in that room.
I know many freepers seem to think the liberalism here is somehow genetic (some of the comments crack me up), but truly most of the crazy people I know here are from somewhere else, because it seems most RESIDENTS here are from somewhere else.
Nevada is chock full as well. I left California in ‘89 and didn’t look back. With only two interstate highways entering the state from California, and U.S. 395, should be easy enough to have a few Nevada State Troopers close off access....
California is not only a failed state. it is an epic failed state.
California is not only a failed state. it is an epic failed state.
“Is there any hope that the economy of California will recover?”
Everyone who or who’s family has come here in the last 100 years, go back where you came from!!!
Mhy wife and my families have been in So. California for over 150 years and aren’t going anywhere.
“Just give the SW coast of the dump back to Mexico “
It was never part of Mexico!!
before it became an independant country it was comprised of Spanish land grants.
3 days after it became an independant country it joined the US.
I won’t leave the coast, no matter how bad it gets.
The question is which state will be the tipping point for another Sept 08' - Econ Collapse?
NY? CA ? or MI? as "Porkulus" money balancing the budgets goes away?
Will it be their Union Pension Liabilities and the new FASB rules associated with it ( Look for the post here from "RedState" it was a dilly )?
If the GOP takes the house and senate, can you imagine the chaos at the stand off as these states fall in to Chapter 11? Can you see Obama trying to do an end-around via treasury and float them money? Can you say Constitutional Crisis?
Calling it an independent country is a bit of a stretch.
California use to be a liberal, in the old sense of the word, state with a small government and insignificant welfare policy. Then the left coaster, north easterners and Midwest progressives started moving to the state and bringing their welfare statist redistributionist politics with them and THEY absolutely destroyed the state. In addition to that over the last 20 years its illegal immigrant tide from south of the border that has swamped california slowly turning it to a hispanic dominated corrupt cesspool circling the toilet bowl drain.
Californians didnt screw this state, progressive that migrated from around the world and country did.
I know, I was born here 64 years ago and have watched the whole pathetic episode.
I think that what might drive the powers that be in California positively bonkers is for non-Californians to produce an objective list of what is wrong with California, and what needs to be changed for them to become a functional State again.
Just pointing out the obvious truth, that they refuse to admit.
1) Renounce all the nonsensical pensions, payments and promises. By amending their State constitution, if they have to. Limit all pensions and benefits for all State retirees to $30,000/yr, adjusted only for inflation. No double dipping. From dog catcher to governor, no more.
2) Stop public payment of any monies at all to illegal aliens. Proof of citizenship or legal residency is required for welfare, schooling, hospitalization or more than life saving emergent care, and any other local, county or State cost.
3) Reduce in-State college tuition to $1,000/semester, making up any difference by either cutbacks or raising out of State tuition. This especially means cutting administration and academic salaries.
4) Institute fines, often substantial ones, as an alternative to some first time misdemeanor incarceration. For example, a first time DUI that does not result in injury or accident, could have as an alternative to jail, a $30,000 fine, that cannot be appealed, and is paid to a State administrator. So instead of costing the State tens of thousands of dollars, the public purse would profit from the punishment.
Second offense, or any other harm, and the traditional punishment is used.
5) Use “Joe Arpaio-style” tent jails out in the desert for most inmates, as they cost just a fraction of what “brick” jails cost. This will eliminate the prison overcrowding, and reduce much of the violence and expense found in that system. Plus inmates can serve their entire term, without early release.
6) Relax most of the nonsensical, unscientific, and anti-business environmental restrictions. It’s not hard. Just eliminate the vast number that have no rational basis.
Is it wrong to just think - - let them have Jerry Brown at the helm and sink into a financial avalanche?
Post of the year. I live in ny and have a mutual situation.
#5 - Sales Tax:
“The city of Chicago previously had the highest total sales tax of all major U.S. cities (10.75%), which was a major reference point until the rate was decreased to 9.75% as of July 1, 2010.”
Another Bay Area police group could not prosecute rape crimes because they had run out of ‘rape kits’ & because the budget wasn’t signed, they could not get any more on credit.
Over 100 cases were not processed, IIRC.
5) Use “Joe Arpaio-style” tent jails out in the desert for most inmates, as they cost just a fraction of what “brick” jails cost. This will eliminate the prison overcrowding, and reduce much of the violence and expense found in that system. Plus inmates can serve their entire term, without early release.’
IIRC, Sheriff Joe has very few repeat offenders....less than 10%.
He gives them a dose of hard living that they do not want to repeat. Oatmeal for breakfast. Peanut Butter & Jelly for lunch. Spagetti for dinner. PINK underwear that keeps them from taking it home when they leave. Women & men on the chain gangs breaking up rocks.
All they ever think of cutting when the SHTF are the public services such as schools(which need to be cut), law enforcement and the freebies like welfare. The reasoning behind this is when people see what is being cut they will scream for more taxes. This has worked in the past but is not working as well in todays economic mess. There are many things to cut in education besides teachers, administrators are thick as fleas and need to be weeded out, useless classes can be cut from the higher education and even from the lower elementary and HS level grades.
Pensions for retiring state employees can be cut or eliminated and they can all be put on SS, that includes elected officials.
They never make the hard choices, depending on the tax payers to bail them out time after time.
lol...
How about we don't and say we did?
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