Jerry Brown is INELIGIBLE to run for Governor

California State Law ^ | Years ago | CA Law

[flamefront]

Thanks. You appear right on this.

Everyone --- NEVERMIND.

Also see this article [Jerry] Brown Plans Comeback as 'Unusual Attorney General'[California]

[calcowgirl]

That’s not the way the law reads.

Past service does not make one ineligible to run.
The law simply states that officers may serve for only two terms going forward.

The new law, limiting service to 2 terms, did not go into effect until 1990.
You cannot apply law retroactively (unfortunate in this case).

[calex59]

That is the only and false argument we are hearing from Brown on the matter. Do laws have no meaning? The law applies today. He was a 2 term governor. He is not able to run. If it were that way all kinds of exceptions would be allowed.

As much as I would like to see Brown get the boot, you cannot make a law that punishes, or applies to, a person who committed an offense or an action that took place before that law took affect. Example: If you jaywalked today and it was legal, they couldn't pass a law tomorrow and bring you to court for jay walking yesterday. Brown is exempt and it is not a fake exemption it is real. You, and all FReepers, should know that and be aware of it. There are many reasons not to vote from Brown, his eligibility isn't one of them. Stop spinning your wheels for things that are false, don't be liberal like in your actions.

[flamefront]

It not a punishment, it'a a limit.

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[gunsequalfreedom]

Does the law apply retroactively or only to those who have been governor since its passage?

[calex59]

I don’t care what you call it, you can’t grandfather a law. Brown is eligible, period. To say otherwise makes you, and every other FReeper who buys into it, look like an idiot.

[gunsequalfreedom]

Seriously why haven’t they brought this up. And why hasn’t the Republican Party stomped around yelling and screaming about it. Why didn’t Brown’s primary opponents launch in to great diatribes about it.

Because it is not true, that's why.

[Chunga]

Does the law apply retroactively or only to those who have been governor since its passage?

You tell me. Your opinion is apparently as good as the next guy's.

[gunsequalfreedom]

Yeah....and how many pensions and benefits does he get,......enquiring minds seek to know....?

Many elected representatives on both sides of the isle are getting paid a pension while drawing a paycheck from another government position following their time in sacramento.

[EQAndyBuzz]

I agree. As mush as I would love to see Brown frogmarched to the pokey with a raincoat over his head, he is exempt.

Plus if he couldn’t run, the RATS would probably pull a Torricelli.

[gunsequalfreedom]

Well, unless there’s another section that’s applicable, it doesn’t qualify “two terms” as “two consecutive terms” or mention that the law only applies to candidates AFTER a certain calendar date (ie no prior exceptions).

Did you read the text of the law, the legal document?

[dixiechick2000]

If the laws in IL are working as well as the laws of CA, it probably won’t stop Rahm, either.

[gunsequalfreedom]

Come on, people, we're better than this...

Amen! Thank you.

[gunsequalfreedom]

We forgive you. Hey, you made the evening interesting. FReepRegards!

[DCBurgess58]

I fail to see how Brown’s having been Governor before the term limits rule was enacted, somehow makes him exempt from the rule. It appears to be a serious and intentional misreading of the law. He has been Governor two times already. Therefore he is ineligible now. It seems quite clear to mean but perhaps I am too unsophisticated in parsing language. The Democrats however, are marvelous at parsing, I guess it all depends on what your definition of is, is.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

RULE #1 (supercedes all others):
RULES ARE ONLY FOR REPUBLICANS

[DCBurgess58]

Okay... you cited an actual law, you win. Jerry Brown is therefore eligible to be a horrible Governor again. Of course, that’s if the people would like him to continue California’s freefall from the fourth largest economy in the world to becoming a third world sewer.

[gunsequalfreedom]

You tell me. Your opinion is apparently as good as the next guy's.

Well, actually in this case my opinion was as good as irishjuggler's, with a qualification that he was smarter because he actually found the citation in the law to support his opinion. I merely presumed it to be so.

Brown is eligible to serve despite the law now restricting governor's to two terms.

[gunsequalfreedom]

In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.

Would the opposite then be, "men exploit other men"? Or would it be "men other exploit men"? Trying to understand your tag line.

[DCBurgess58]

I'm guessing you actually understand the quote and are trying to be funny. The tagline is a shortened version of a statement by John Kenneth Galbraith which I found amusing.

It assumes that in capitalisn, the "wealthy men" exploit "working men" to make money, while in communism the "working men" (do party leaders actually do any work?) exploit hatred against "wealthy men" to keep in control. I found the statement to be clever.