Posted on 09/29/2010 7:15:05 AM PDT by WebFocus
And the obvious answer is that American taxes and regulations make it too expensive to hire Americans for these jobs.
Call it the law of unintended conseqences, stupidity, or whatever. Corporations are in business to make money. If you pass laws that raise the cost of hiring Americans as employees, corporations will simply move those jobs overseas. All corporations.
And the next point should be that ObamaCare will make it even more expensive to hire Americans, which means more jobs will go overseas. Everyone that voted for ObamaCare knew that; a vote for ObamaCare was a vote to send jobs overseas.
Then ask Boxer why she voted to send jobs overseas.
The charge is true. FWIW.
HP bought out Compaq (and Digital Equip Corp with it) then proceeded to kill the best hardware platform because it was better than theirs and then killed off OSF/1 because it was better than HP-SUX.
They are scum sucking bastards.
Barbara Boxer is a fraud Senator who stole her first election as Senator.
Break out the pitchforks: VDH has turned “globalist.”
HP eventually bought Tandem Computers and the robust operating system — OpenVMS (which used to be the flagship of the now defunct, DEC ).
What has happened to these once fine products, I have no clue...
Additionally, labor unions have priced their members out of the global economy.
Check this out:
http://www.globalsourceyourit.com/blog/2009/06/clinton%e2%80%99s-speech-supports-offshore-outsourcing-to-india/
And this:
Even with talk of protectionist barriers in retreat, the topic of offshore outsourcing is still potent enough to generate intense interest. During a recent panel discussion in which I participated with former President Bill Clinton, he expressed broad support for global trade, including, in principle, offshore outsourcing.
“Its good for some companies, and, on balance, its good for the world. As to whether its good or bad for America, its fruitless to close the border to trade,” Clinton told some 300 attendees recently at The Donnelley Groups fifth annual Information Privacy Forum in Aspen, Colo
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Management/Does-Outsourcing-Create-a-Social-Obligation/
California, once the Golden State, is in the final stages of descent into oblivian.
Many people will finally abandon their properties when they realize that it is better to go elsewhere, live in freedom, and "build again with worn-out tools"!
What will the liberals do whne their source of revenue is gone?
VMS is in support mode now and support of it shipped to India. The VMS group in Nashua, NH is no more.
RE: VMS is in support mode now and support of it shipped to India. The VMS group in Nashua, NH is no more.
It looks like a lot of things we no longer want to use are being sent to India to support as well.
Look, I empathize with all the skilled technologist who lost their OpenVMS support jobs to India, but let’s face it -— VERY FEW COMPANIES IN THE USA use OpenVMS anymore.
It just isn’t profitable and cost effective to continue maintaining a support center here in the USA with the market trends going where they are.
I am willing to bet the Nashua, NH folks have moved on to other technical pursuits. As for the support group in India... hey, their days are NUMBERED as well — as numbered as the life span of the once venerable OpenVMS.
What about the once venerable TANDEM NON-STOP COMPUTER ? What’s happened to it ? It once used to power the NASDAQ Stock Market’s data center.
There are two acronyms that need to be discussed here: NAFTA and GATT. Where did Boxer stand on these two vehicles that have been used to outsource American jobs overseas since their inception???
You signed up 7 days ago and post THIS?
IT WAS THE BUBBA CLINTON ADMINISTRATION THAT MADE A NICE LITTLE DEAL WITH A SUPPORTER TO INSTALL THE OUTSOURCING POLICIES WE ARE DEALING WITH NOW.
Now, I didn’t check but what you want to bet BOXER voted YEA on that one.
So lets count all of the jobs lost to outsourcing by BOXERS vote on the Clinton Administrations outsourcing gambit.
I hope Carly wins, Boxer is the dumbest Senator out of a 100.
However the Outsourcing issue is going to do her in. Even the Conservatives and Republicans I know hate this with a passion. These are hardworking people not the moucher/looter class.
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Barbara Boxer has been consistent in her votes on trade — She’s against free trade.
I checked and she voted NO on NAFTA, and more recently voted NO on CAFTA ( for Central America free-trade ).
Check here for Barbara Boxer’s record on trade for both NAFTA and CAFTA :
http://articles.latimes.com/1993-11-21/news/mn-59485_1_trade-pact
http://www.ontheissues.org/international/Barbara_Boxer_Free_Trade.htm
The conservatives and republicans you know are against economic freedom? Are they also against lower prices for American consumers? How do they feel about the insourcing of jobs to the US?
Because we do not wish to lower wages to China’s levels, or emulate the working conditions of Mexico — or see our companies go bankrupt with goods priced well over unforgiving global going rates — the only answer is upping the value of American labor and skill sets. That way we can continue to design the world’s top appurtenances, and to figure out the practical problems of their fabrication, while allowing the less-skilled labor of developing countries to put the actual product together — and we can do that to such an overwhelming degree that we keep everyone from design engineers to accountants to manual writers employed at very high wages. They in turn can afford to pay everyone from hard-working baby-sitters to carpenters to restaurant workers wages that are likewise well over the global norm
That shows how clueless the author is on this subject. They are moving all design as well as manufacturing and support off-shore. Done only to boost their own stock options. Now everyone is scratching their heads wondering what went wrong.
Brookhaven you wrote “And the obvious answer is that American taxes and regulations make it too expensive to hire Americans for these jobs.”
I heard a story in 1992 from a specialty contractor who worked with a computer company in the Bay Area. He was told that in the same amount of time it took to build and start-up a chip board manufacturing facility in Thailand they got an awning on their existing building ‘approved’.
With the rate of excessive regulation since then, how is any manufacturer going to keep up with NIABYE (not in anyone’s backyard EVER)
PS for Hanson: Check out the rates of engineering students in the US. Not keeping up.
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