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How ObamaCare Guts Medicare
Wall Street Journal ^ | 9/9/10 | PETER FERRARA and LARRY HUNTER

Posted on 09/09/2010 5:23:18 PM PDT by rhema

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1 posted on 09/09/2010 5:23:19 PM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

See: Cloward-Piven Strategy for a complete explanation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward–Piven_strategy


2 posted on 09/09/2010 5:26:42 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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I think the goal is “medicare for all” and/or “single payer” health insurance. Of course after single payer ets in the next song we start to hear id one for Great Britain style socialized medecine to go with socialized insurance.


3 posted on 09/09/2010 5:31:55 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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And he expects us old guys to vote for his sorry a&&?
4 posted on 09/09/2010 5:36:15 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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Houston has one of the finest medical centers in the world...largely built with charitable donations from the estates of the wealthy .

Who will donate to build a hospital under ObamaCare?

Who will leave their estate to a government run medical
system?

Other medical facilities around the country:

Shriners Hospitals

Duke Medical

Countless Catholic hospitals

how many more?


5 posted on 09/09/2010 5:39:42 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: rhema
How ObamaCare Guts Medicare

Death panels - depopulation of America's elderly courtesy of Obama himself

6 posted on 09/09/2010 6:07:09 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: rhema; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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7 posted on 09/12/2010 12:22:45 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: MamaDearest

Tuesday in my 65th so I guess I become a target that day for (o)bama and his band of islamic barbarians.


8 posted on 09/12/2010 6:33:53 AM PDT by Mouton
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And he expects us old guys to vote for his sorry a&&?

No, he expects you to die so you can't vote against his sorry a&&.
9 posted on 09/12/2010 6:34:41 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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10 posted on 09/12/2010 6:36:20 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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Either Obama guts Medicare

Or the GOP guts Medicare

Or there will be massive tax increases to pay for it

Or we drive the program until the wheels come off.

The demographics are unavoidable - there ain't no free lunch.

11 posted on 09/12/2010 6:56:52 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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NEWS FLASH...

Part B Medicare payments to Doctors have already been cut

Last year CMS paid 80% for an office visit to my Doctor.
NOW the &%#$@ers at CMS only pay 50%.

So ... what did the Doc do? .. simple, raise the cost for an office visit!
He now clears the same, but now I'M PAYING the rest. I don't blame the Dr. He's got to eat too. It's that friggen usurping Kenyan and his gang of pet monkeys whose to blame.

It now 'costs me' more to go see my Family Dr, a General Practitioner, than it does when I go to see my Orthopedic Surgeon for a Cortisone shot. 'SERIES', the office visit cost for the Specialist is now less than for a GP, go figure that one out!?!

12 posted on 09/12/2010 7:45:52 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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If you are on Medicare, you are effectively a welfare recipient.

The money that pays for your care is being paid, this year, by taxpayers who are in the workforce.

And those taxpayers are going to have to pay more and more and more, every year, for you to receive those services.

So perhaps you might want to turn down the "how dare they cut MY benefits" sense of entitlement just a notch or two, mmkay??.

By the way, I'm looking at my 57th birthday this year....

13 posted on 09/12/2010 7:57:38 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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No, he expects you to die so you can't vote against his sorry a&&. and then vote for his sorry @ss--at least twice.
14 posted on 09/12/2010 8:00:01 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Part of that 9.5% that's really more like 20%, Let's call it what it is: The Great O-pression)
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To: Notary Sojac
*** If you are on Medicare, you are effectively a welfare recipient. The money that pays for your care is being paid, this year, by taxpayers who are in the workforce. ***

Wrong. Medicare isn't welfare. Medicaid is the 'welfare' health insurance.

Medicare is just like Health Insurance and it has premiums due each month. So I pay for that Medicare 'Insurance' every month as does everyone whose on it. And I've paid for that Medicare coverage since its inception.

And no one is paying for me. To think that is to think anyone with Health Insurance is being supported by others. If you have Blue Cross and pay 'x' dollars a month then have a Surgery that costs $140k, its the other in your Insurance Plan (Company) that picks up the remaining portion (+/-20%, or $28,000) of your costs with their premiums. Medicare is the same.

I don't get where people got the idea that 'Medicare is free'? People on it pay and pay more out of pocket than those with regular insurance. And again, they've paid for it their whole working lives. Payments don't stop when you retire.

Again, Medicare is not Medicaid.

15 posted on 09/12/2010 8:34:12 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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Already this is affecting my 72 year old mother. Just a few months ago, she had no co-pay when she went to her doctor but now she has to pay $40.


16 posted on 09/12/2010 10:35:34 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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In 2033, I’ll be almost 100 years old.

That’s the year they start throwing us off cliffs.


17 posted on 09/12/2010 12:40:40 PM PDT by Palladin (Remember Lepanto--Sink the Mosque!)
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“No, he expects you to die so you can't vote against his sorry a&&.”


So, how about if we “old guys and gals” get off our sorry azzes and make sure all of our friends and relatives are made aware of socialist obama, his policies, his death panels/RATIONING!,that they are registered to vote, and are aware of the conservatives up for election, that they receive the transportation they need to get to and from the polls. This is the election of our lifetime, and at this stage of our lives, we either take this socialist in the White House DOWN, or he takes US down.

18 posted on 09/12/2010 12:51:10 PM PDT by itssme
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Wrong.

The minute you try to collect some of the “benefits” that you paid for over your entire working life, off the cliff you go!

And that may be better than the alternative, when somebody figures out that you’re just as dead with the pills as without them, and they can save a dollar if they withhold them.


19 posted on 09/12/2010 12:59:09 PM PDT by benewton (I)
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And the problem with that is what??? No one ever gave me freebie medical visits, procedures, medicines etc. Always had to pay up.


20 posted on 09/12/2010 1:07:24 PM PDT by LFOD (Presently - Back in Dixie)
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