Successful Tea Party Movement Must Include Pro-Life Issues, Not Just Economy

Life News ^ | 8/31/10 | Tom Glessner

[little jeremiah]

Yes, they want guns and to keep their money, and the rest of the country can go to hell for all they care. As long as porn, prostitutes and drugs are available and they can engage in their pet vice without anyone saying anything about it. Of course the inevitable chaos and social breakdown that would occur, with resultant tyranny, they cannot imagine. Their plan is an adolescent comic book fantasy that can never happen in real life.

It’s based on this theory:

“If everything were all different - everything would be all different!” (As in human nature...)

[Brian Kopp DPM]

And I suspect the Mormon tendency (i.e., Beck) to Libertarianism is because eventually they want to restore polygamy. If you want to quietly restore polygamy, you might not want to rock the boat on homosexual marriage either...

[little jeremiah]

That’s very likely. I know a Mormon couple and they were (not socially interacting with them any more) surprising liberal in their social views, especially in regards to homosexual agenda stuff.

[trisham]

I’m not willing to sacrifice conservatism of any kind. Avaricious opportunists who call themselves fiscal conservatives are anything but conservative. We do not need to murder the most vulnerable members of society to balance the budget. Conservatism does not exist only on a bank ledger. It encompasses all aspects of life. You’re either conservative or you’re not. If you reject the concept of conservatism, but embrace a few aspects that support your self-centered wants and needs, you’re not a conservative.

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Excellent post, BB.

[mlizzy]

Once again I will ask why the pro life movement has gotten nowhere since 1973. I keep getting attacked even though I am anti-death as well.

By "anti-death," are you saying you are pro-life? If so, do you actively protest abortion by way of Truth Tours, marches, etc.?

[trisham]

Furthermore, how do anti-abortion laws diminish your liberty? Or do you regard abortion as a liberty?

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Good questions. I think you're on to something here.

[trisham]

Is it possible that all these posters on this thread making this assertion are just bald faced liars who want to jettison social conservatives from the conservative movement?

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Imho, yes.

[wagglebee]

You cannot defend life if you are yourself a slave or a serf.

History is ripe with events that demonstrate that the exact opposite is true.

When we have the liberty we were intended to have under our Constitution -- that is, for one thing, when the federal government is limited -- we have more freedom to work against abortion and actually implement policy changes that the people want,

The liberty that is INTENDED under the Constitution DOES NOT included the slaughter of the innocent.

Your entire post is just another attempt to dismiss the pro-life movement in order to get what you THINK you want.

Roe v. Wade has created a ripple effect through the economy, there are OVER 50 MILLION PEOPLE who are not contributing to the economy and killing more isn't going to make things any better.

[jla]

EternalVigilance: American Independent Party shill who incessantly intrudes on and attempts to smear and distort genuine conservative motives within the G.O.P.

Why does EternalVigilance do this?
Simply put, the more people he can attract to the A.I.P., even if just a handful, that means potentially more cash donations to the A.I.P., thus his 'cut' will be bigger.

Keyes & pawns supporters at it again. Pushing baby carriages along, in which inside are baby dolls splattered in fake blood. They do this, ostensibly, to save infants from being aborted.
FACT: Not a single baby's life has been saved by the circus sideshow antics actions of Keyes and the A.I.P.
FACT: Keyes, his A.I.P., along with Randall Terry, do more than any other organization or group of people in bringing embarrassment and inviting ridicule upon the noble and righteous cause of eliminating abortion.
Which begs the question, why do they behave like this?
ANSWER: Donations, cash donations. These people, (Keyes, Terry, et al) have more interest in increasing the balance(s) in their bank accounts than in preventing abortions.

[EternalVigilance]

A load of lying trash, from perhaps the most liberal surviving poster on Free Republic.

[EternalVigilance]

Among your multiple lies the most glaring is that America's Independent Party is out for money.

In fact, AIP accepts no donations. It operates solely on a volunteer basis. It is as grassroots as it gets.

Nice try, RINO, but no cigar.

[wagglebee]

EternalVigilance: American Independent Party shill who incessantly intrudes on and attempts to smear and distort genuine conservative motives within the G.O.P.

Have you actually read this thread? It is full of Tea Party members who are openly advocating excluding pro-life issues from the Tea Party. There's no distorting that, it's right there for all to see.

(And for the record, I AM NOT a member of the AIP. I still nominally consider myself a member of the GOP, though I no longer have any intention for voting for a candidate just because they happen to have an "R" after their name.)

[EternalVigilance]

AIPNews.com

AIP is 'the Citizen-Led Campaign to Save America'

AIP does not accept financial contributions

America's Independent Party intends to change America's political culture, by example.

That's why we've decided that our national party committee will no longer accept financial contributions. Everything at this level will be done on a strictly volunteer basis. Instead, we're asking you to directly support the activists, candidates, and organizations who are out on the front lines, at the local and state levels, so that 100% of your precious resources will go directly to the most important work.

We will be providing links to many tried-and-true locally-based groups who are working to restore constitutional government of, by, and for the people.

[BykrBayb]

Is it possible that all these posters on this thread making this assertion are just bald faced liars who want to jettison social conservatives from the conservative movement?

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Imho, yes.

Count me in.

[EternalVigilance]

By the way, I don't have anything to do with Randall Terry, and neither does AIP.

And what Alan Keyes does is up to him. He's a free, independent, American patriot. A great one. I'm proud that he is an AIP Affiliate and chooses to associate himself with our party. Republican leaders were fools to treat him like dirt as they did and drive him, and the rest of us, from their ranks.

[jla]

God gave you a brain, use it.
Tea party candidates, are by (their) nature pro-life. Keeping the term 'pro-life' from officially being sanctioned by the various tea parties does not mean that we are relegating pro-life issues to the back burner.
I have attended enough GOP events to know that abortion is not high on the list of a lot of people's agenda(s). As a matter of fact I recall one such event, for Eric Cantor, in which a smartly attired man told me, "you f*cking people need to shut the hell up abortion!" I calmly replied, "Not gonna happen."

The point I attempt to make is let's not lose sight of the forest for the trees. Every single person elected to the U.S. House and Senate can be pro-life and that wouldn't change the current status of abortion. If I'm wrong please show me where.
Now, a pro-life POTUS, though not him/herself having the power to outlaw abortion, can nominate justices to the SCOTUS who certainly could reverse Roe v. Wade.

The problem lies in the fact that too many people, like Keyes and his ilk, are far more interested in getting credit, and the spotlight shone on them, for being pro-life than they are in actually affecting positive change; in preventing abortions from not only occurring but eventually becoming, again, a widespread social stigma.

Do you think Mother Teresa ever gave a moment's thought if political parties or organizations included the term 'pro-life' in their literature or on banners at their rallies?
I think she was a little too busy with matters at hand to fret about that.

[EternalVigilance]

[EternalVigilance]

[wagglebee]

Tea party candidates, are by (their) nature pro-life. Keeping the term 'pro-life' from officially being sanctioned by the various tea parties does not mean that we are relegating pro-life issues to the back burner.

Remind me again how it is that Scott Brown is pro-life.

The point I attempt to make is let's not lose sight of the forest for the trees. Every single person elected to the U.S. House and Senate can be pro-life and that wouldn't change the current status of abortion.

That is patently FALSE.

Do you think Mother Teresa ever gave a moment's thought if political parties or organizations included the term 'pro-life' in their literature or on banners at their rallies? I think she was a little too busy with matters at hand to fret about that.

This is not about the term being used, this is about pro-lifers being told to go away.

As I said before, read this thread.

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