Posted on 08/14/2010 9:07:22 AM PDT by Chunga85
"I needed some damn money."
How 'bout that one, Professor Einstein?
Yes, mortgage fraud is rampant, but it doesn’t hold a candle to the real causes of this crisis:
1. Lax underwriting guidelines across ALL loan types.
2. Artificially low interest rates.
3. A guaranteed buyer (Fannie/Freddie)for a procuct (mortgages).
4. A tax code that favors one asset class over all others.
Mix those 4 thing together and you get a real estate bubble of epic proportions.
We increased residential mortgage debt from $5.1 trillion to $11 trillion in 8 short years from 2000 2008.
Again, we increased our national residential mortgage debt BY 6 trillion dollars, at a time when the market was over-priced.
It took us 100s of years to get to 5.1 trillion. It took us 8 years to more than double that number to 11 trillion!
The question is, how much did we overspend? 2 trillion? 3 trillion? More??
There were approximately $1 trillion subprime loans done (no one thinks we have stopped doing subprime loans do they?... let’s see, subprime went away and FHA went from 2% market share to 40% market share... hmmmmmm?)
There were approximately $1 trillion of Alt-A loans done.
That leaves approximately $9 trillion of supposedly “prime” loans. If 16% of those default (which is what one of the charts predicts), then that would be $1.4 trillion in defaulted PRIME (wink, wink) loans.
Subprime has a higher default rate, but prime losses will be much, much larger dollar-wise. Size matters.
That is what people do not seem to grasp yet; the enormity of the issue. There is no way to pin the problem on one specific type of loan. Doing that grossly understates the scope of the problem.
Prime loans (which were actually what I call faux-prime because the majority of prime loans done during that time did not remotely fit the traditional definition of a prime loan), Alt-A loans, Subprime loans doesnt matter.
ANY loan done during that time frame was a bad loan because the value of the underlying asset was distorted/inflated.
To throw salt in the wound, the harsh reality is that millions of the jobs that were created during that time were temporary, because they existed only as long as the real estate bubble existed (really, it was an asset bubble of almost ALL asset types).
That bubble has burst and its a long way down back to earth.
The pain must come.
Jobs, jobs, jobs (non-government, preferably export-creating jobs) are the only pain reliever!!
The anti-business attitude in Washington has got to stop.
Jobs are the only thing that can save us, if anything can.
Woman Tasered in Foreclosure Standoff SWAT Team! That's great stuff! According to the Gwinnet Court's Website the "lenders" involved are Citibank and Umb Bank. This I'm sure is worth a few chuckles.
"The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines mortgage fraud as the intentional misstatement, misrepresentation, or omission by an applicant or other interested parties, relied on by a lender or underwriter to provide funding for, to purchase, or to insure a mortgage loan.
That articles good for a few chuckles ... I just hope some people start scratching their heads over the “necessity” for foreclosure mills to forge all those documents in support of their actions ... couldn’t be because the notes are lacking a legal enforcement mechanism is it?? no fraud at all when the trusts and all the supporting aparatus was created and sold.. ( cough.. ) http://floridaindependent.com/5763/mccollums-office-announces-investigation-of-foreclosure-mills
The proliferation of mortgage fraud must be seen within the context of the general decline in society’s moral framework - and until THAT trend is reversed, I see no reason to believe the systemic corruption of our economic, governmental, and other institutions won’t continue.
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It’s funny that in your reply you posted a photo of an IT slaves cube... The US worker has been sold out by inflation and gov’t policies undermining wealth creation for at least 30 years and probably longer... ask anyone that works IT and is surrounded by wage suppressing H1-b types or used to manufacture nearly anything here in the USA ... The average wage today is lower than it was (inflation adjusted) in the 1970’s.
In other words the “do whatever it takes” mentality has been formed over generations.. don’t expect it to reverse anytime soon.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are issuers for most conforming mortgages. Investment banks primarily issue securities backed by subprime mortgages and other non-conforming mortgages.94Notably, investment banks that issue mortgage-backed securities do not sample loans or properties to verify the facts; they merely accept the paper offered to them by originators.95
AIG was used ,, the real key was GS, Lehman , Morgan Stanley et al getting the ratings agencies to play ball ,,, when they got that key part nailed down they went crazy throwing money at anybody.
Me: So what you're saying is, even though the terms of the attorney's general agreement manufactures the facade of separation between Ameriquest and Argent - at the funds transfer level, they ARE STILL one and the same - with the transactions taking place on the same hardware servers and software.H1B Type: Yeah, but nobody knows that. Ha ha ha.
>>ALL the players were aware of that fact
Evidently so. The entire system was methodically gamed.
Nonetheless, it’s notable the AIG / securitized instrument insurance angle is conspicuously missing from the paper.
Search for “insur” only has two results - both related to title insurance. No reference to AIG at all.
>>getting the ratings agencies to play ball
Argent Mortgage falsified thousands of FICO scores on loan applications.
They bought the source code for, and deliberately altered, the Empower LOS (Loan Origination Software) implementation they were using - including the FICO related EMPOWER data-entry screen, on which FICO score is normally Read-only.
So the FICO presented for a loan in a securizited instrument, being evaluated by the ratings agencies, was not necessarily an actual FICO produced by one of the 3 credit-scoring agencies.
FICO was, supposedly, the only valid number on a “Liar Loan” that could be used to predict the credit-worthiness of the lying borrower.
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Hey Rocky, watch me pull a FICO score out of my...
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Garbage in, Garbage out - ratings agencies aren’t immune to that that rule.
Dumb bell homeowners just failed to read their loan docs, including the Pooling and Servicing Agreement, Trust Prospectus, REMIC, etc.
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."-- Benito Mussolini
They bought the source code for, and deliberately altered, the Empower LOS (Loan Origination Software) implementation they were using - including the FICO related EMPOWER data-entry screen, on which FICO score is normally Read-only.
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That’s news to me... HMMMMM.... Up til now it has all been blamed on the originators faking data for income and such as far as I have heard.. Can you please goto http://mattweidnerlaw.com/blog/contact/ and give him your info ,, your info will be greatly appreciated.
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