Botched Campaigns in Colorado (The GOP may end up losing two winnable races in Colorado)

National Review ^ | 08/02/2010 | David Harsanyi

[rhombus]

Like in 1968, when a third party candidate split the Democrat vote and carried 5 states, allowing Nixon to win. It wasn't Republican votes that (Independent and former Dem)George Wallace siphoned off.

The only time I saw where it didn't work was when John Anderson ran. Even a moderate Republican wasn't enough to keep people from voting for Reagan. I think Anderson tapped off as many moderate Democrat votes as Republican votes. The Democrats were split bad and Anderson did little to the solidarity of the GOP behind Reagan.

[rhombus]

You are still urging an appeal to the mushy middle so we are in agreement there. As for “purging” and replacing with “radical constituents”, every whiner on FR has a different definition of what that is depending on their particular hobby horse. Nobody is ever going to be pure enough. Unfortunately the other party is so much more adept at falling in line and being a part of the whole (they’re commies after all). We have so many individuals on our side that we can’t ever agree on anything and we’re always ready to give someone the finger and walk - it’s our strength but also our weakness.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

The reason Colorado is a mess is that...people do not understand the difference between being a “Republican” and being a “Conservative”

There are already some here trying to marginalize and discredit Tancredo...merely because he is running as an Independent. If it was not for Tancredo....we would not have Illegal Alienism and Illegal Alien Amnesty as an issue...no SB 1070...and would have Amnesty passed by GW Bush, John McCain, Karl Rove (super Liberal RINO)....Obama would not even have to worry about Amnesty as Liberal RINO GOP would have passed it already

It is obvious Tancredo is the conservative running for the COL governorship. If you are not supporting Tancredo...you will definitely be supporting a Liberal.

This nonsense that “third party candidates cost the GOP elections” is total BS. The GOP loses elections because they lose their conservative base. People still whining over Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996 miss the total fact that Bush 41 and Dole were not conservatives and poor choices for the GOP.

This “third party vote” myth needs to be trashed...and anyone still believing this is not really a conservative. Its time to grow up...think on your own...and stop believing everything a fraud-con talk radio host says.

As for Marco Rubio in Florida...Frantzie is 100% correct. Rubio is losing ground because he did not support the AZ SB 1070...and to this day will not offer full support. And, Rubio has a track record as Speaker in the Florida House for killing anti-illegal alien/pro-American legislation. Marco Rubio is for Illegal Alien Amnesty....and this was the same issue why Mel Martinez did not run for another term in the Senate. It’s time for people to stop being ignorant and start doing some research on Rubio. Crist is leading Rubio because Floridians have figured out that Marco Rubio is not really a conservative.

Kinda scary that FReepers would so believe an article from a liberal Denver paper regarding Tancredo. The Open Borders/Pro-Illegal Alien/Liberal Globalist crowd hates Tancredo with a passion because of his stand (and his success) in making Illegal Alienism as an issue.

Coloradoans have a choice....Tom Tancredo or a Liberal. If you are not supporting Tancredo....you will be supporting a Liberal

[Deb]

Gee, what a brilliant idea! Lets "force out" everyone you think isn't pure or conservative enough. What a recipe for victory! Everyone knows its not the party with the most voters, but the one that agrees with you the most. Maybe you could draw up a test...

Or...

You could work to expand the party with conservatives that would dilute the influence of people you disapprove of while retaining the numbers to achieve the majority we need to actually over-turn the damage done by the Marxist Democrats.

Whatdaya think?

[ansel12]

In the last election Tancredo wanted to be the Republican President of America, and then he endorsed the pro-amnesty, illegal alien hiring, “Sanctuary Mansion” Mitt Romney while he was in the middle of yet another of his illegal alien scandals, instead of candidate Fred Thompson.

Why did he do that? Where was all his conservatism and integrity?

[starlifter]

Not at all. In fact they should be encouraged to vote, as should everyone.

[Jim Noble]

This story is going to be repeated all over the nation this Fall.

Blind, dumb, helpless and hopeless.

It's just awful. Power is lying on the ground. Who will pick it up?

[Alex Murphy]

...they [the "Colorado God-squad", "Those associated with various religious and quasi-religious organizations who like to be petty power brokers" who you suspect was "involved in this fiasco"] should be encouraged to vote, as should everyone.

Should they be encouraged to participate in, if not conduct, any candidate vetting and selection processes?

[starlifter]

They should be encouraged to vote.

Anyone can participate in, or attempt to participate in, the candidate vetting and selection process.

[LomanBill]

>>Should they be encouraged to participate in...

 

...no more and no less the civic duties than any other INDIVIDUAL Citizen.

 

Problem is the majority of religionist sheeple have defaulted on those duties and instead just parrot the pecuniary COLLECTIVE world-view of relig-o-taining "leader$" who've perched themselves upon the temple steps.

 

The kind of Fire in the Mind ignited by FOF is not the kind that leads to a Free Republic; rather, all it's done is help burn down the village.

 

 

The pot-stirring of FOF regarding the Rainbow/Homosexual Agenda may have been good for book sales and ratings - but it was completely impotent, and even counter-productive, in recognizing and responding to the physiological reality that has been exploited and quietly nurtured by occult manipulators, including the religionist kind, throughout human history.

 

"The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true."
--Albert Einstein

 

 

[April Lexington]

Folks... think. The PARTY are the regulars. They can be conservative or big tent. The voters are the stooges we manipulate to vote for our candidate. If we put up a big tent candidate, the GOP stooges vote for that candidate. If we put up a conservative candidate, the GOP stooges vote for the conservative candidate. They don't know the difference. BUT the PARTY organization does. This is why we are in a perpetual minority status. The 20% LIBERAL Dems who control their party understand power and consistency while the GOP Party leaders and their stooges run around in Uncle Sam hats and do lawn signs while our freedoms dissipate.

[April Lexington]

Whatdaya think?

I think you need to meditate on how political power works...

[April Lexington]

we’re always ready to give someone the finger and walk - it’s our strength but also our weakness.

Excellent post. I have no intention of walking!

[LomanBill]

>>I can vote for Tom Tancredo who has not a chance of winning

 

The same thing was said when the "Fiscally Conservative" RINOs hoisted up Ahnuld "it's not cheating if you're only eating" Shwartzenwhatever for CA Governor instead of Tom McClintock.

 

I didn't vote for the RINO when I was stuck in Californistan; and I'm sure as heck not going to vote for one after moving back to the once Conservative state I grew up in.

 

I'll be voting for Tancredo instead of a plagiarizing, thieving, RINO.

[LomanBill]

>>GOP Party leaders

 

"Leaders" like Dick Cheney, Juan McCain - and their homosexual Log Cabin offspring?

 

Progressive "Leaders" who were complicit with the moral bankruptcy and resulting systemic corruption of our financial infrastructure?

 

 

 

Ladies, Gentlemen, and Eunuchs - the Fiscally Conservative miscreants in charge of the GOP hen house, weren't.

 

So I say we pluck their Rainbow plumage, TAR AND FEATHER THEM WITH IT, and send the Quislings packing!

[April Lexington]

What you said!

[Washi]

I'll be voting Tancredo for governor, and Buck for senate.

I encourage all Colorado conservatives to join me.

[WOSG]

Crist is against the AZ law.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/08/11/crist_i_dont_like_the_arizona_law.html
CNN: “I don’t like the Arizona law. I don’t think it’s the way to go,” Crist told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on The Situation Room. “I think the key word […] is ‘people that are suspected of being illegal immigrants.’ How do you make that determination? By what they look like? That’s not part of the America I believe in.”

WhAT A MAROON! He hasnt read the law. Crist now has Demo donors, so this shapeshifting flimflam artist will be a flaming lib.

And Rubio is not opposed to AZ law btw.

[Frantzie]

Crist is a nightmare, fraud, weirdo. I loathe him. Rubio is an open-borders RINO.