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Supreme Court to hear Arizona immigration law challenge
Reuters US Edition ^ | Monday, June 28, 2010 | James Vicini

Posted on 06/28/2010 6:01:30 PM PDT by Star Traveler

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To: MamaTexan
You were saying ...

Government has no authority to 'regulate immigration', merely to make a regular rule for naturalization.

Well..., sorry to tell you, though -- over the years I've seen government do a lot of things that certain others say it has no authority to do. So, in real life, it takes more that a certain group of people "saying so" ...


If the SC insists on continuing the expansion of illegitimate federal power to control every person and State in the country.......the People will be just about out of options.

The Constitution provides for a way to override the Supreme Court -- if the people decide to do so. It's called a Constitutional Amendment. Of course, it's something that the people have to agree to do, or else it's not going to get done.

AND..., if some group of people were to try to override the Supreme Court on some matter that it ruled on, and it failed -- that means that they don't have the support of the people to be able to do so. And that's exactly as the founding fathers intended it to be. There has to be an overwhelming majority before there's going to be any overriding of the Supreme Court.

Another way to look at these matters is that if a group says that a decision is wrong (at the Supreme Court) and the greater majority of people won't override it, then that's a clear indication that the Supreme Court is right in its decision "according to the greater majority of people".

To get something done in our society, you've got to carry a large group of people with you -- and then you've got the political power to make the changes. If you don't have the political power to make the changes, that's just the way it works.

As I've said all along -- the "real key" here is not the legislators or the Supreme Court or the President -- it's "the people" themselves. If they don't vote in the right legislators, if they don't vote in the right President, and thus they don't get the right Supreme Court appointees -- then this is what happens. The key is simply "grow more conservatives" so that the "vote" changes in this country.

41 posted on 06/29/2010 6:51:55 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Persevero
You were saying ...

I thought there was something on the “rocket docket.”

Maybe there is, but I sure haven't heard of it. But, please..., if anyone has information on it, post it here ... :-)

42 posted on 06/29/2010 6:54:16 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: COBOL2Java

Do you mean MINORITY Opine.


43 posted on 06/29/2010 8:13:43 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Star Traveler
The law at issue in the case is different from the strict new Arizona immigration law passed earlier this year and criticized by President Barack Obama that requires the police to determine the immigration status of any person suspected of being in the country illegally.
 
From what I understand this is completely incorrect.  I thought they could only ask if they have been stopped in some way for another infraction, not just hey you, come here I want to check you immigration status!

44 posted on 06/29/2010 8:58:14 AM PDT by united1000
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To: Star Traveler
The law at issue in the case is different from the strict new Arizona immigration law passed earlier this year and criticized by President Barack Obama that requires the police to determine the immigration status of any person suspected of being in the country illegally.
 
From what I understand this is completely incorrect.  I thought they could only ask if they have been stopped in some way for another infraction, not just hey you, come here I want to check you immigration status!

45 posted on 06/29/2010 8:58:24 AM PDT by united1000
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To: united1000

Sorry for the double post


46 posted on 06/29/2010 8:59:14 AM PDT by united1000
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To: COBOL2Java
wise Latina


I don't care who you are--that is an oxymoron right there.

47 posted on 06/29/2010 9:16:56 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (That Kenyan bastard is not my president. ENFORCE the Bill of Rights.)
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To: Marty62
Do you mean MINORITY Opine.

One can only hope! With Kagan on the court, who knows?

48 posted on 06/29/2010 9:44:02 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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49 posted on 06/29/2010 11:18:22 AM PDT by Arcy
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To: Star Traveler

Yeah, sure, AZ should listen to the corrupt court. No way. The federal government, which includes the USSC, has failed to do their duty. AZ should hold firm. The feds don;t want to get into an income withholding issue.


50 posted on 06/29/2010 12:53:19 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: cranked

She will vote the same way JP Stevens would’ve voted...


51 posted on 06/29/2010 1:54:52 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck -)
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To: Star Traveler
Then..., if that's the case, all the Supreme Court needed to do was to refuse to take the case ... end of story ... :-)

To be honest I'm surprised that they didn't. I'm not aware of any particularly tricky legal issues with the law. I thought the grounds for challenging it were awfully weak, and it progressed past the original judge and appellate court rather quickly.

I guess some of the justices felt the need to hear the case. It could be because they are skeptical of the law, or it could be that they want to set down a precedent on such laws that would be binding across the nation, not just within the jurisdiction of that particular appeals court.

52 posted on 06/29/2010 3:49:49 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: CodeToad
You were saying ...

Yeah, sure, AZ should listen to the corrupt court. No way. The federal government, which includes the USSC, has failed to do their duty.

Well, the only problem with that is -- that it's our system that we have -- to operate under. It's just like I've said about the general situation, all along here on Free Republic. It's not that the system itself is a problem or that even the legislators or the judges or the President -- are all the true problem -- at the "bottom of things".

The true problem is that the voters have put all these people in there and they haven't voted in the ones who would do things differently. Basically what it requires -- if one wants to change things -- is that we have to "grow more conservatives" and then it's going to take almost as long to get things back to the way it was before, as it took to get here in the first place. There are no quick solutions.

And then, if we can't "grow more conservatives" in order to carry through on the political power necessary, then you're just going to get more of the same. It's totally up to the voters, and so far, they've pretty much (as a "body" of voters and from what you can see as far as the office holders and judges and so on) have gone along with it all -- even if a certain segment of voters have not.

It's going to take a whole lot more than just saying stuff on a board. It's going to take growing a whole lot more conservatives, enough to exercise sufficient political power to carry through with all the necessary changes.

53 posted on 06/29/2010 4:08:32 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: businessprofessor
She should recuse herself. The law involves her people so she cannot be impartial.

First of all, Sotomayor is of Puerto Rican ancestry; all Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.

Second, do you think that Justice Thomas should recuse himself from all civil rights cases because they involve "his people"?

54 posted on 06/29/2010 4:13:55 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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The left does not see it the way that we see it. To the left, identity politics trump other considerations. Puerto Rican is still considered Hispanic so she has solidarity with the illegals. If you doubt me, please look at her political activism and writings. She considers herself part of the oppressed minority, a laughable assertion given the privileges that have been bestowed upon her.

The left would prefer that Clarence Thomas recuse himself from all cases involving race. Clarence Thomas does not seem to play the identity politics game so he is reviled in the African American community.


55 posted on 06/29/2010 4:39:57 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: raybbr
Isn't the case brought to one judge and they convince the Court to take the case? If that's true it would be interesting to find out which judge convinced the Court to hear the case.

When a case is brought to SCOTUS for consideration, it is a request for a writ of certiorari. If SCOTUS concurs, it is called "granting cert". It takes 4 justices to concur in order to "grant cert".

If cert is granted, then briefs are filed and a date for oral argument is set ...

56 posted on 06/29/2010 9:34:47 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Star Traveler

Gov. Bredesen of TN just signed a law stating all law enforcement must provide ICE with anyone in custody who’s identity cannot be determined. John Doe has become Hans Perez.

Works for me.


57 posted on 06/29/2010 9:48:32 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Arcy

Says it all, doesn’t it?

La Raza has convinced these fools that they sure are entitled.


58 posted on 06/30/2010 3:00:03 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: historyrepeatz

Is there a challenge?


59 posted on 06/30/2010 4:48:53 PM PDT by Eddie01 (All we every really knew was it was crazy to be doin' it any other way)
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