US advances at World Cup with 1-0 win

AP ^ | June 23 2010 | RONALD BLUM

[1rudeboy]

In the order that you ask: 1. there's a rule regarding the announcement, but I don't know what it is, 2. the ref nned not add extra time, 3. tie games are allowed in the first round only, 4. injuries usually result in time being added, 5. no it is not to a team's advantage* to fake an injury.

Yes, it is arbitrary, but maybe not as much as you think.

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*players can fake an injury in order to catch their breath (and they do), but if the ref orders them up and they don't get up, the ref sends them off the pitch where they cannot return unless he gives the ok (in other words, the team plays down one man).

[kevkrom]

How far in advance does he have to announce it, and does the ref have to do it to begin with? Could the ref just said "Time's expired. Tied game" at the 90 minute mark and left it at that regardless of stoppages? Is it that arbitrary? And say someone is injured during the extra time, can they add more time to the game to account for it? And if a team is trailing late in a game is it to their advantage to fake an injury to get some additional time?

I believe FIFA rules require that the referee give the indication to the fourth official, who then displays it for the teams (and fans) to see. The indication is usually given a minute or two before stoppage time begins.

It's an estimate only -- the referee still keeps the time himself, and will continue to add extra time as warranted. So he could say "3 minutes", and really take 4+ if there was another injury, booking, etc.

But yes, stall tactics do come into play as well, but in the opposite direction -- the team ahead (or clinging to a tie) wants to stall to run out the clock, not to extend the game. Faking an injury doesn't do much either way, because the referee can (and should) just add more time, though you can snag a quick breather that way. Using extra substitutions if you have any left is a common stall, as that's "normal" play time and shouldn't extend the match.

[1rudeboy]

Dude, I'm not going to re-write what I wrote many posts ago and re-post the article link. You claimed I'm lazy, your lazy and have no reading comprehension. Go re-read post 133 of mine to you and you will have your answers.

And that's the thing: if your impression of that article was correct, you'd have no trouble showing me. But you can't.

[1rudeboy]

For one thing, you thought I was talking about Iraq when I never mentioned Iraq.

Boy, that's some major league stupid, there: if you plan on holding that against me, then you must necessarily believe that the countries you decry for opposing us in Afghanistan didn't equate the two, either.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"And that's the thing: if your impression of that article was correct, you'd have no trouble showing me. But you can't."

Re-read post 133. You asked this same question, to show you where in the article he was putting down Americans for not liking soccer. I gave you examples of this in post 133. I'm tired of having to re-post what I said because you have no reading comprehension. Go back and re-read post 133 where I already answered this question and gave examples from the article.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Boy, that's some major league stupid, there:"

For once, we agree. You are one major league stupid person.

"you must necessarily believe that the countries you decry for opposing us in Afghanistan didn't equate the two, either."

No, I don't think the countries I'm talking about in Europe equate a soccer game to our policy in Afghanistan. What I do think is they have the same attitude of we know better than you in both instances. Then again, I'm not sure why I'm typing this to you. You don't seem to be smart enough to understand what I'm saying.

[1rudeboy]

Serious "put down," here (how will we ever recover from this insult to America?):

What will you do, America, if your team implodes Wednesday?

What will you do, America, if Algeria runs the U.S. not only out of Pretoria but all the way out of the World Cup?

Will you care? Will you cry? Or will you simply shrug and say, "That's soccer," and move along to something else?

Your reaction matters. It matters to all 23 players who will be on the field and on the bench Wednesday afternoon at 107-year-old Loftus Versfeld Stadium.

[1rudeboy]

No, I don't think the countries I'm talking about in Europe equate a soccer game to our policy in Afghanistan.

Now, you're just being dense. You're the guy who thinks your opinion is validated because I mistakenly stated that you said "Iraq," instead of "Afghanistan."

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Serious "put down," here (how will we ever recover from this insult to America?)"

Did I ever say that? No, I think my statement was that the rest of the world puts us down because we don't like soccer. This is an example that you requested and I provided. In their pious eyes they need to tell us what to like (soccer), what to do (in places like Afghanistan). Its the same type of attitude. Again, you need a serious lesson in reading comprehension. Most of your problem.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"You're the guy who thinks your opinion is validated because I mistakenly stated that you said "Iraq," instead of "Afghanistan."

No, my opinion is validated by the example I provided you in post 133 and numerous other posts on the subject. Your mistake only validates that you don't have proper reading comprehension. As far as world affairs in this thread, I've stated Taliban and Al Queada (in a joking manner) and Afghanistan. Whats the one word you found I stated? Iraq of course. It's just another example of how you don't read properly which is why you're still arguing with me to prove that I'm wrong about my opinion...

[1rudeboy]

Damn, you just never stop, do you? Your example is not an example. There's no simpler way to put it.

Coming back to your general mental state: what's the difference between disliking something because you perceive it is being forced down your throat, and disliking something because you perceive it "sends a message" to others?

[1rudeboy]

And as I stated: if you plan on holding that (Iraq vs. Afghanistan) against me, then you must necessarily believe that the countries you decry for opposing us in Afghanistan didn’t equate the two, either.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Damn, you just never stop, do you? Your example is not an example. There's no simpler way to put it."

Look who's talking about not stopping. I can't help it that you are too dense or unwilling to understand the example.

"Coming back to your general mental state: what's the difference between disliking something because you perceive it is being forced down your throat, and disliking something because you perceive it "sends a message" to others? "

Another example of your stupidity. As I have stated numerous times, I don't like soccer because there is not a lot of offense, low scoring and generally boring. I also don't like how people try to shove it down Americas throats and look down on us because we don't like it. Two different things that you seemed to have conflagurated together. Is that too big a word for you?

[Non-Sequitur]

Thanks for your patience, the both of you. I'll admit I'm starting to get into it.

Last question. If the U.S. wins the World Cup does that mean that the rest of the world has to start calling the game 'soccer'? Just kidding on that one.

[1rudeboy]

I can't help it that you are too dense or unwilling to understand the example.
By the way your #133 is now my #207, that I used as an example that you are wrong.

I don't like soccer because there is not a lot of offense, low scoring and generally boring.
Excellent!

I also don't like how people try to shove it down Americas throats and look down on us because we don't like it.
Bullshit. See above.

[1rudeboy]

No, if the U.S. wins you will be forced to admit the U.S. is awesome. You will not become an illegal alien, or an Englishman, or some limp-wristed writer for the LAT. You will no longer whine that soccer is being “forced down your throat,” or that others are “putting down America.” The War on Terror will continue, regardless.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"By the way your #133 is now my #207, that I used as an example that you are wrong."

No, you didn't prove it was wrong, you merely used it to try to rip on me. You truly are an idiot.

[1rudeboy]

you merely used it to try to rip on me

"I object, Your Honor. Opposing counsel is using my evidence to defeat my argument." LOLOLOL

[kevkrom]

If the U.S. wins the World Cup does that mean that the rest of the world has to start calling the game 'soccer'?

It's a moot point. Their collective heads will have exploded, ergo they won't be capable of using speech at all anyway.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

Well, I’m glad your humor amuses you. It’s kind of like you, dense. It only took you about 25 posts to figure out why I don’t like soccer. I first posted why I don’t like soccer way back in post 20 and numerous other times and you have finally figured it out. But again, what can I expect from someone who reads U.S. Iraq policy into my statements when I never talked about Iraq.