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A 'Duty To Die' In An Advanced Civilization?
Investors.com ^ | May 10, 2010 | The great THOMAS SOWELL

Posted on 05/10/2010 4:24:46 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: barb-tex
reardless of what Barricuda Sarah says, there are no death panels in obummercare.

I'll agree that there is no language that actually says "Death Panel" in there, but there is certainly language that defines one, and how folks will be subject to them. It has been pointed out repeatedly here on FR, with proper cites. I'll see what I can find.

21 posted on 05/10/2010 4:54:59 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: barb-tex

You are correct. They are in the Stimulus Bill. Very sneaky, wouldn’t you say?


22 posted on 05/10/2010 4:55:25 PM PDT by Josephat
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To: jazusamo
Dr. Sowell nails it again.

Doesn't he always?
You're welcome

23 posted on 05/10/2010 4:56:19 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: barb-tex
You might want to read THIS article before making that statement.
24 posted on 05/10/2010 4:58:58 PM PDT by Don W (I only keep certain folks' numbers in my 'phone so I know NOT to answer when they call)
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To: barb-tex
Link to FR articles alone that have "Death Panel" as a key word. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/deathpanel/index?tab=articles

The first link vindicates Palin.

25 posted on 05/10/2010 4:59:24 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: jazusamo

As long as obama and those of his ilk are in power, we are not a decent society.

Abortion and death are the gods of the Democrat Party.


26 posted on 05/10/2010 5:04:31 PM PDT by sport
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To: RFEngineer

Old granny is only dimly aware of the true joys of life and even without illness does little more than squander someone’s rightful inheritance on the Home Shopping Channel. Her heirs would spend it so much more wisely on things they like. Why is there any reason to wait for her to get sick? /s


27 posted on 05/10/2010 5:04:56 PM PDT by Marylander (Old ... and ... loving it.)
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To: Kaslin

I guess the elites/ruling class get to live as long as they can.


28 posted on 05/10/2010 5:07:43 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: wagglebee

I will “do my duty” in GODS good time and not one second before..


29 posted on 05/10/2010 5:08:52 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Amen!

In fact, I see it as something GOD will determine, not me, and not some elitist bureaucratic death panel.

It will be interesting to see Christians living longer without medical care. What would the death lovers do then?


30 posted on 05/10/2010 5:17:01 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Kaslin

This is something of a Catch-22. That is, it has been noted that the vast majority of social programs since the 1960s have been directed solely to benefit one group: the baby boomers. To do this, there has been the political will to impoverish everyone else.

Importantly, not just so that baby boomers survive, but that they prosper in ways that other groups not only do not, but in the future will be so indebted, that they *cannot*.

That is, the baby boomers have superior health care that costs so much that nobody else will ever enjoy its benefits. We will all have to make due with the bare minimum. Likewise, baby boomers get to have an early and prosperous retirement, though everyone else faces the prospect of a very lean old age, and working until we die.

The government was always willing to indulge the baby boomers, the spoiled children of America. Spending money for their idealistic experiments, hither and yon, most of which were wasteful and dubious. Always responding promptly to their temper tantrums and demands for attention.

But the greed was too much. Too much money was spent too fast. So instead of everyone else having to shoulder the burden of the baby boomers, they are going to have to reap what they have sewn as well.

I won’t call it a “duty to die”, but when everyone is hungry, and the baby boomer tries to snatch a biscuit from a baby to shove into their own muzzle, they should not be surprised if not only do they not get the biscuit, but they get a punch in the nose for their efforts.

This doesn’t mean the same as hunting them for sport, but if they have not set aside wealth for their own old age, they shouldn’t be surprised to see that nobody is going to do it for them, nor is willing to deprive their own children so that the boomers can have extra.


31 posted on 05/10/2010 5:25:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Marylander

I remember when the Obummer was running for election, and made a statement decrying “non productive citizens”. (Wish I had saved it so I could quote it.) At the time, I figured that was an inkling as to what was coming. Non productive citizens are not just the elderly. So add disabled (including children...I worry about my dear friend’s down syndrome grandchild) to the elderly, who Obummer has stated may get a little pill to ease their pain when illness strikes...and hurry them along to eternity.


32 posted on 05/10/2010 5:42:04 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: Kaslin

Anyone need yet another proof that the DemoLefties are a murder/suicide death cult of freaks and perverts?

‘intellectuals” my ass! They are all just a bunch of Jim Jones socialist, anal retentive, control freak, plague rats.


33 posted on 05/10/2010 6:10:57 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: Kaslin
If you are gonna kill off the old people, then those with physical or mental handicaps will be next. Then, why not abort any fetus with the slightest abnormality? How about people with horrific injuries who have little chance of ever paying taxes again? Why not just let them die? It's cheaper, you know! They're just a burden on society, too, like the old people, right?

Eugenics is the end result.

As is class based health care. Already, the ruling class has a Cadillac insurance plan, followed by the supporters of the ruling class, the unions, whose insurance is only slightly less than the ruling class. Then there is the welfare class who gets everything free, but with less quality. That leaves wage earners whose only means of survival is to stay healthy & pay taxes - or die!

34 posted on 05/10/2010 6:16:25 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: wagglebee

IBTDB


35 posted on 05/10/2010 6:18:14 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping jaz. We most certainly aren’t better for it are we?


36 posted on 05/10/2010 6:19:59 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: Kaslin; jazusamo

WOW! Reading the commentaries I see much about hypothetically offing granny, but nothing about us grandpa’s. Wondering why so much concern for granny, and nothing for grandpa. SHEESH! ;)


37 posted on 05/10/2010 6:26:53 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: Mister Da
They're just a burden on society, too, like the old people, right?

From a purely economic standpoint, that's exactly what these people are.

Of course, the same is true of any and all people who cost more for society than they produce, including a hugely disproportionate percentage of the ethnic group that voted most heavily for Obama.

Even children fall into this group, although with children you at least have the possibility that they'll be productive in the future.

38 posted on 05/10/2010 6:32:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: screaminsunshine
If it is going to get this bad I am going to get the party started now. While I still can.

Better get it started. We've seen civilized countries go down this kind of road before, within living memory.

39 posted on 05/10/2010 7:06:03 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Kaslin

That’s positively Orwellian.


40 posted on 05/10/2010 7:23:43 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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