Hawaii governor announces 'exact' place of Obama birth

World Net Daily ^ | 5-5-10 | Joe Kovacs

[TigersEye]

smrstrauss said,in October 27th, 2008 at 12:25 pm Why does Obama have to prove that he is a citizen?

That alone should be cause for a zot. We don't need no steenking commies here. ;-)

[mojitojoe]

Maybe he was a hit and run, realized he was busted. Did he or she seriously think they could come to THIS forum, use the same name and FReepers would just go ho hum?

[little jeremiah]

Because he’s on the 0-team payroll, that’s why.

I hate 0bama suckup trolls. They make me literally sick to my stomach. They repeat the same lies and idiocies over and over and over again and all they have is Wong Wong Wong or “you have to prove it” when all of 0thugga’s documents are under lock and key.

When their lame idiocies are proved wrong hundreds of times, the next day they drag them out again like a stinking fetid carcass and prop it up as though everyone here is a fool. Actually they know they aren’t fooling anyone so the only reason for some of them is that they are hirelings. PSYOPS.

[Red Steel]

Not with you around. ;-)

[mojitojoe]

That alone should be cause for a zot.
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I agree, but there are several stinkin’ commies here, he or she can play with them for a while. I suspect this one won’t last long.

[Theodore R.]

Wouldn’t we have been just as well off if a Democrat had defeated Lingle back when? What is Lingle worth any way?

[Vendome]

You are a retarded asshole and have no concept of the english language.

The Mustafa case was in 1999, well after Barry’s birth.

The Mustafa’s “claimed their children to be NBC”. No ruling applied to the childrens citizenship extant to the three claims in the case.

There was no ruling regarding their status bur that it be reviewed, again.

I will read the other case you cite but, you are off to bad start, though not unexpected for a witless halfer.

Gas bag.

[mojitojoe]

Thanks smrstrauss... based on your post below, I think we really need to see if he received that foreign aid at Occidental because I think you just answered the question.

smrstrauss says:
August 4, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Re: “No way his school records can be released, either?”

He has the power to release his school records, if he wants. Why should he?

You should take a look at the school records that the plaintiffs attempted to subpoena in the case you are referring to, Keyes v Obama. First, they FORGOT to attempt to subpoena Obama’s financial aid records. They only asked for ALL Obama’s academic records and all his housing records.

Well, frankly, I don’t think that they have any right to see his housing records, or the housing records of future presidents, which would naturally affect the privacy of the people he and future presidents had lived with. If he wants to, Obama can disclose his academic records. However, remember in this case the attempt was to see ALL the academic records. No president has disclosed more than a grade-point average before, not the names of all courses taken and the results in each of them. I’m not sure that it would be good precedent that all future presidents must disclose all courses they took and the grades in each of them. (And, what would the grades in each course have to do with Obama being a Natural Born Citizen?)

As I said before, the plaintiffs forgot (but perhaps they did NOT forget) to ask for Obama’s financial aid records. So, they would not have found out whether Occidental had considered him a foreign student in any case.

But, what really does it matter. Say that the plaintiffs had asked for the financial aid records and that it showed that Occidental had considered him a foreign student (which is unlikely, but say that it did.) Does this prove that Obama really was foreign? No it only shows that Occidental considered him a foreign student, and it has the right to consider anyone anything since it is a private organization.

And besides, both the US State Department and Indonesia say that Obama was never a citizen of Indonesia.

http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/07/29/andrew-sullivan-birther/

[mojitojoe]

Hey, you get the credit. You found him and did a damn nice job.

[Vendome]

In regards to Diaz, WHERE do you see a claim of asylum regarding their children and NBC?

You don’t because, english is a foreign language to you and you are using a tutor from Vietnam, who is typing your crap.

In fact, in point 4 of the distinguishing summary the court:

We are not insensitive to the fundamental human concerns raised in Judge Weick’s dissenting opinion. Essentially, however, we believe the pain and hardship attendant upon the proposed deportation of Diaz-Salazar is not distinguishable from the conditions surrounding a substantial number of similar deportations. The Supreme Court in Wang has unmistakably instructed us not to substitute our judgment for that of the Immigration and Naturalization Service in these matters. Further, this court is without authority to suspend the immigration laws because Mexico has currently fallen into economic crisis. In this connection, the INS may undertake to review all deportations to Mexico in the light of current conditions

Who the hell are you and why are you arguing for an unConstituional position, which is unlawful in any country and why is this so near and dear to your heart?

Forget anything you might want to pontificate on but answering the question:

why is this so near and dear to your heart?

Anything else you drivel will be discarded for it’s vacuous intellect and failure of point.

[Red Steel]

Actually LJ, gave me the heads up after his initial two posts. You always know what to do with trolls. ;-)

[Vendome]

Then why the difference in terms?

They are quite clearly different or they would state it differently to mean the same.

The child of a citizen may very well be “natural born” with different, inalienable and unalterable rights that are quite distinguishable from a “just as much citizen” and that citizen may also have all the other rights of a Natural Born Citizen but not the one distinguishing characteristic of their birth or Constitutional requirement, that they be Natural Born Citizens.

In other words, a simple citizen cannot be President but a Natural Born Citizen can.

Other than that, the law treats them the same.

“The child of the citizen is “natural born” while the child of the alien is “just a much a citizen”.”

[mojitojoe]

http://www.google.com/search?q=smrstrauss

[Vendome]

Here is something I like to post from time to time:

 

 

Let them claim there is no long form.

 

1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)

 

2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?

 

3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 

 

Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?

 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

• His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
•  The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
• The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
• The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of Hawaii.  Why?  Because it was computer generated and not scanned.  Guess they forgot to add that back in.
• More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

• His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
• The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
• Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death.   He waxed on and wondered about it and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 

 

 

[Red Steel]

Wow, he is the super delegate Obot troll from Commie land.

[Vendome]

No, it is not using them interchangeable.

They are indistinguishable until the Constitution Sec. 2. 2.

The only time the circumstance of birth matters is in the criteria for becoming president.

Barry O. or S., depending on what documents he ever used, Fails.

Even when one considers his birth to be in Hawaii, he admits to a divided citizenship and one can only be wholly one or other but not two things at the same time.

[mojitojoe]

On February 11, 2010, I published Exposé: Obot SMRSTRAUSS Finally Unmasked! My article revealed the prolific commenting activities of an obot who was (and still is) papering virtually every conservative blog with repetitive disinformation. He is on a mission to defend Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States against those who argue that Obama isn’t qualified because of his dual citizenship with Britain and/or due to unanswered questions about Obama’s place of birth.

A simple Google search for comments made by, to, and about smrstrauss today returns around 20,000 hits. In my first exposé, I did not reveal the full identity of smrstrauss, even though I knew who he was after extensive research. However, since publishing that exposé, smrstrauss has visited my blog again with more “cognitive infiltration,” likely following the suggestions of Cass Sunstein, who now head’s Obama’s Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. smrstrauss was warned that another post would force my hand, and that warning was ignored on March 12, 2010. So, are you ready for the reveal?

Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce you to Paul R. Strauss and his wife, Ann Fenlon Strauss, who work as a team of obots with a mission to defend Obama’s eligibility to serve as President. Mr. and Mrs. Strauss live in Arlington, MA. Disclaimer: Although the names are similar, Paul R. Strauss is NOT Paul Strauss, the Shadow Senator representing Washington, D.C.

http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/03/smrstrauss-total-reveal-their-tangled.html

[Vendome]

What?! You mean there is more than one retarded asshole, who is acting as a shill for Barry, posting tonight?

Inconceivable!

[Fred Nerks]

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Saturday, February 13, 2010
CALL FOR HELP: Seeking More IP Addresses For SMRSTRAUSS

This is a follow-up to my recent article about obot SMRSTRAUSS. Since the article was published, two people have supplied me with several new IP addresses used by this person. I would like to collect as many of these as possible to create a database. If this person has posted on your blog and you have access to his IP addresses, I would appreciate receiving that information, including the date (or date range) linked to those addresses. You can submit these to me either in the comment section of this notice or in the comment section of the original article. Alternatively, you can send them to me privately by using the contact form in the sidebar.

I welcome any information that might add substance to my investigation. If you have facts that might be useful, please feel free to share that information with me.

Since receiving the latest IP addresses, my instinct tells me there is more to SMRSTRAUSS than meets the eye.

http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2010/02/call-for-help-seeking-more-ip-addresses.html