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US Supreme Court Records ^ | 24 April 2010 | Self

Posted on 04/24/2010 9:18:10 AM PDT by Mr Rogers

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To: Mr Rogers
and by the definitions used by the courts, Obama qualifies.

Which courts have said that???

401 posted on 04/30/2010 9:32:18 AM PDT by danamco (")
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“Mr. Rogers, could you please answer the simple question, so that we then can have an intelligent conversation, is that too much ask???”

Hmmm...let you make demands that I have to jump to meet...no thanks. There are posters here that I respect, but you are not one of them.

If you understood the Constitution, you would understand how ridiculous it is for a Lt Col in the Army to decide he gets to disobey orders until the President PROVES to him personally that he is President.

It goes to that ‘standing’ thing - the birther idea that being one of 300 million gives them the ‘standing’ to challenge the election on an issue known to everyone before, during, and after the election.

You don’t. Lakin doesn’t. Under the Constitution, you as individuals don’t get to determine what NBC means, or how it applies. Protect and defend the Constitution - NOT Lakin’s opinions, and NOT danamco’s opinions! You two do not determine how the other 300 million have to live. You do not have standing to challenge the election of Obama based on information known to everyone before the election began.


402 posted on 04/30/2010 11:32:53 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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Hmmm...let you make demands that I have to jump to meet...no thanks. There are posters here that I respect, but you are not one of them.

Your lack of respect, will certainly not keep me awake or ruin my sleep, BTW, how is your meds, hopye/change doing for you???

OK Mr. Tap-dancer, you wouldn't answer that question, so I take that you never took that oath either, because your postings doesn't reflect that!

So I went and looked it up and it says the following: "I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. "!!

My own Oath was a little different from the above, when I became a legal U.S. citizen: ""I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."

I presume that Lt.Col. Lakin took the same oath to the "CONSTITUTION", NOT to the pRESIDENT. There is no doubt in my mind that he believe firmly (like I and many other Freepers do) that he does NOT have a legitimate C-i-C and he thereby, like the rest of us, has to defend the Constitution. The primary and very first thing mentioned in that Oath, is to DEFEND against all enemies, foreign and domestic, it's nothing more and nothing less. It's a real sad thing that we have or have had people in the military who are afraid to stand up and defend the Constitution. If you still don't believe that our Constitution is being attacked by foreign and domestic enemies, then not only have you knee-pads on but large horse-blinders. Very sad time in our nations future!!!

403 posted on 04/30/2010 12:50:57 PM PDT by danamco (")
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Lakin cannot defend the Constitution against the electorate, the Congress & Supreme Court.

Your problem is that you want to rule by dictate, and not need to do annoying things like win elections, or comply with how 50 states, the Congress and the Supreme Court read the Constitution.

Hate to break it to you, but danamco doesn’t define the Constitution or the law, and Lakin will find that out when he gets his butt handed to him.

You ought to try reading the Constitution sometime. You won’t find a single line about how the military gets to pick the President over the wishes of the people, Congress & the Courts...


404 posted on 04/30/2010 12:56:07 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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When you get naturalized you have to study the Constitution. Many have not, but my American wife forced me to!

So from here I just give up and again refer you to post 390!!

Many kids get their brains injured by all the Ritalin big Pharma is pushing on them, and I'm afraid the Anthrax vaccine is working the same way!!!

405 posted on 04/30/2010 1:17:34 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Mr Rogers

“Lakin cannot defend the Constitution against the electorate, the Congress & Supreme Court.”


Hmmmm? Well, it is refreshing and encouraging to see there still are some other forward looking people in America today speaking up together with Lt. Col. Lakin despite some fifth-column former soldiers who just keep their knee-pads on!!!.............................................Does the ABC reporter’s remark sound familiar to you???

Tea Partiers in Oceanside, CA learn about the Columbia Treason Trial
SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT THE TRIAL TO BE HELD BY DR. JAMES MANNING AND AMERICAN GRAND JURY

contributed by Neil Turner

Snapshot of the flyers distributed at the Oceanside, CA tea party as well as in other venues across the country

(Apr. 30, 2010) — The Oceanside, CA Tea Party on April 15 was a huge success, with signs advertising the Columbia Sedition and Treason Trial to be held in New York City from May 14-19, 2010, prominently displayed.

After meeting “America’s Sheriff” Joe Arpaio-endorsed candidate for San Diego Sheriff, Jay LaSeur, I had the opportunity to tell LeSeur of the evidence (repeated often throughout the evening) to be presented at the trial. When I asked Jay if he would prosecute Obama when the Grand Jury returned indictments against him, San Diego’s next Sheriff responded, “Absolutely!”

I distributed many flyers and sent several photos to radio show host Roger Hedgecock, who had asked for photos from tea parties around the country.

Finally, I asked a question of CA Gubernatorial Candidate Larry Naritelli:

As Governor and Commander-in-Chief of the CA National Guard, would you be willing to follow the lead of several other near and border-state candidates and demand that Mr. Obama, as Commander-in-Chief of our military, show proof that he is Constitutionally eligible to be Commander-in-Chief, and if he is not, then will you return all of our National Guard troops to California and deploy them on the border to defend us from the illegal alien invasion?

“Absolutely!” said Candidate Naritelli. “Not only that, but I will secure our borders, and will even call out the local ‘Minutemen’ to help in this endeavor.”

An ABC reporter was handed a copy of the C.I.A. COLUMBIA OBAMA Sedition and Treason TRIAL flyer and then asked if ABC would be covering the trial in New York City in May. She said “Absolutely,” then looked in greater detail at the flyer and said: “I don’t know about that one.”

The evidence which I have been told will be presented at the trial in New York is as follows:

* Barry Soetoro was recruited, as a foreign student at Occidental College in CA, by the C.I.A., who was looking for Arabic-speaking, Muslim, non-U.S. citizens to go to Afghanistan to assist the Mujahedeen in driving the Russians out of the country;
* They arranged with Columbia University to act as a “cover” (and to give him a “Degree”) while he was working for them in Pakistan and Afghanistan;
* Saudi money then got him into Harvard, but when he got his “law degree” there, he couldn’t get a job with any major law firms because he couldn’t pass any “vetting”;
* He went to Chicago where he met attorney Michelle Robinson (working with the now convicted and imprisoned Tony Rezko), who married him – and she “arranged” for his “U.S. citizenship.”

It is expected that additional evidence about Obama’s true past will be presented by Dr. Manning and his associates. Further information can be found here.


406 posted on 04/30/2010 2:02:12 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Mr Rogers; Candor7; LucyT; little jeremiah

When I reflect on this great photo at the top in combat gear, especially strapped in “KNEE-PADS”(?) the words below is probably what you will hear/read from you dear leader in 2016, if he ever leaves , don’t you think???

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

It’s been my responsibility, my duty and very much my honor to serve as Commander in Chief of this nation’s Armed Forces these past eight years. That is the most sacred, most important ask of the Presidency. Since our nation’s founding, the primary obligation of the national government has been the common defense of these United States. But as I have sought to perform this sacred task as best I could, I have done so with the knowledge that my role in this day-to-day-to-day effort, from sunrise to sunrise, every moment of every hour of every day of every year, is a glancing one compared to yours. ... But it’s not just your fellow Americans who owe you a debt. No, I believe many more do, for I believe that military service in the Armed Forces of the United States is a profound form of service to all humankind. You stand engaged in an effort to keep America safe at home, to protect our allies and interests abroad, to keep the seas and the skies free of threat. Just as America stands as an example to the world of the inestimable benefits of freedom and democracy, so too an America with the capacity to project her power for the purpose of protecting and expanding freedom and democracy abroad benefits the suffering people of the world.” Yours truly..xxxxx


407 posted on 05/02/2010 3:24:07 PM PDT by danamco (")
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