Posted on 04/22/2010 3:36:54 PM PDT by HD1200
"They are still loosing money. There is a huge payment coming on their retirement obligations."
Yep, using one credit card to pay another is not a good business model.
But, then, when did unions ever care about business?
yitbos
According to CNN.com’s bailout tracker, the federal government has poured $49.9 billion into GM:
http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/economy/bailouttracker/index.html
So how could the recent “repayment”, or shuffling of dollars, have possibly repaid all the bailout money? It couldn’t have repaid it all and GM could be using semantic gimmickry along with money shuffling: perhaps in technical financial terms the other bailout money wasn’t a “loan” but some other kind of investment in GM. So maybe they did pay back their federal “loans” even though they’ve only paid back less than 20% of the total bailout funding (and that’s if this is not just shuffling money from one TARP account to another.)
I’m a professional investor and trader, and when GM eventually goes public I wouldn’t invest a dime in that company at any stock price. The UAW is way too militant, socialist, and unreasonable about total hourly pay and benefits and will not allow the owners of GM to make any kind of reasonable return on investment. GM’s management certainly made a lot of mistakes. Buying Saab instead of investing that cash in product research and development was probably their biggest mistake. What really killed GM in the end was management’s refusal to reduce costs and headcount in 2007 and 2008, the soaring cost of the UAW’s retiree health care benefits, and the UAW’s reluctance to make serious concessions to reduce that massive health care cost to GM.
Have y’all heard the GM radio ad featuring “Karen” in which she damn nears has an orgasm describing how much she loves her Chevy Impala?
Friend of mine rented a Impala to drive to Miami and back. 1200 miles round trip. He said the Impala was the worst car he has ever driven. Hr gave the car rental place a long list of stuff wrong with the car when he turned it in.
No GM POS for me.
I predict that GM will become a quagmire for the administration and that company will be lucky just to not lose money in a good economy. I don’t know how they’ll ever get an IPO of the “New GM” off the ground. They might be able to talk Wall Street into a big marketing campaign to sell that trash stock to retail investors, but pro investors are not going to buy it except in limited amounts at very low prices that give them a big chunk of equity with a limited investment. I wouldn’t put a dime into that company until it proves it can make a reasonable ROI and then not be attacked by the UAW in the next contract negotiations for earning a profit.
Well I’ve rented several GM cars and all of them drove just fine. In fact, the last one I rented was an Olds Cutlass out of the Las Vegas airport and that Cutlass is still the fastest car I’ve ever driven (...haven’t stepped into a Maserati yet...lol). I think it had about a 4 liter, 24-valve DOHC V6 engine in it with fairly good aerodynamics, and that car was fast. I had to watch it that I didn’t start driving over 80 mph on I-15 in eastern California. So I think most of GM’s products are OK. Their problem is their total cost of production is way above the Asian car-makers and even well above Ford’s production costs. Their union retiree health care costs are outrageously high and they’ll never be able to turn a profit consistently until those UAW retirees start paying much more for their health care while GM pays much less.
There should be a full page ad running that says
“LIARS, YOU PAID WITH BAILOUT MONEY BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE TANK WITH OBAMA.”
“Karen” was probably originally from E. Germany, and the bitch only had the Trabant as a reference point. Impalas are truly awful cars.
Saw that on FOX this morning. I knew it was a bunch of crap.
Probably ‘manufactured’ on a Friday or a Monday. Tho....through the years when I’ve owned a ‘union made’ car....I think ‘hump days’ are ‘happy hours’, too.
What difference does it make where the payoff money came from as long as it is returned to the Treasury Department. I don’t see what all of the yowling is about.
Because the money they gave the Treasury came from the Treasury you dolt. In simple terms, which I’m sure are best for you, they took it out of one pocket and put it in the other and called it ‘payback’.
The yowling isn't abour the repayment its about the characterization by GM and the regime that this was a major achievement for GM. The have tried to create the impression that GM used its own money and is doing quite well, when actually they are still losing taxpayer's money.
The SEC should be investigating GM and Obama.
"...The TARP loans were not repaid from money GM is earning selling cars, as GM and the administration have claimed in their speeches, press releases and television commercials," he wrote.
It’s like the old game of Three Card Monty. I would not get into a poker game with any of the people in the “auto task force.” They might buy another matching deck of cards and walk into the game with 3 aces up their sleeve.
Ijust saw a long, slick TV ad with the GM top dog crowing about having paid back the loans.
If it’s true that they just shuffled some money around, then GM is even more contemptible than it already was.
We're square, right?
and America takes another one in the........
DON’T BUY GM (GOVERNMENT MOTORS) CARS!!!
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