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Confirmed: Obama Authorizes Assassination of U.S. Citizen
Salon ^ | Wednesday, April 7, 2010 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 04/07/2010 7:24:39 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: robertwalker62
You're letting your imagination run wild.

The term "enemy combatant" is defined by the Geneva Conventions something to the effect of: "any person in armed conflict who may be detained under the customs of war".

201 posted on 04/07/2010 11:06:40 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: April Lexington

You are right April. Nobody seems to do anything but gripe against the biggest terrorist of all - the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and his surrounding team of terrorists. Puzzling. CO


202 posted on 04/07/2010 11:06:44 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: kristinn

And people around here think I’m crazy for not trusting the government and believing that they’ll eventually just start killing Americans in America.

Oh yeah. That’s right. It “can’t happen here” and “we’re free” oh yeah. If you can choose to drink Bud Lite or Miller Lite and watch UFC or wrestling, that’s is the litmus test for freedom.


203 posted on 04/07/2010 11:09:47 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: kristinn

Not surprising at all ...

This is the way of Federal Government power. One President or Congress creates a law or rule that may seem benign or rare or extreme or even good in a particular context, and for downstream administrations it becomes SOP and gets used in ways most people never imagined.

This is why it is so frustrating to see so many on the left just love how Obama personalizes and demonizes Fox News or Sarah Palin, or any one else ... they are too short-sighted to see that once the precedent is set, the power can be used against them someday, or anyone.

The Patriot Act may seem in one administration to be a necessary updating of wiretapping law, and in the next, an invasion of privacy applied generally. Computerized medical records in the hands of the government are used one day to facilitate national health care, and the next to intimidate and deny due process and privacy rights. Student loans managed by the government are used one year to facilitate education, and the next to deny a political enemy’s children entry into college.

Maybe Obama using this extreme power will open the eyes of some of his apologists, and hopefully collectivists in general ... the government is NOT your friend, your Mommy, your Daddy ... it is a “force like fire, a dangerous servant and a terrible master” ...


204 posted on 04/07/2010 11:10:13 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: popdonnelly

>If the American citizen takes up arms against the United States, don’t they become a legitimate target?

Not necessarily; it depends on if you’re defining it as the institution itself (which surely is) OR as the _people_ [holding offices] of the institution (which EVERY member of the armed forces is possibly required to do under oath or affirmation).


205 posted on 04/07/2010 11:10:28 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Lazamataz
So when does the left LOSE IT, and demand Obama's impeachment?

The people on the left get sexually excited about the prospect of the government just killing people they think the government should kill.

206 posted on 04/07/2010 11:11:11 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: tutstar

Thanks for posting that tutstar. Yup, it’s all set up and ready to go. And the majority of these things are being done in the dead of night. CO


207 posted on 04/07/2010 11:11:52 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: McBuff
Oh, I know I was just being a smart ass. The press had a field day with the wire taps issue (my opinion is it was completely legit) but I am betting you probably won't hear another word about this.

Its truly scary how inept / biased the press is.

208 posted on 04/07/2010 11:13:42 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: for-q-clinton
Sure the guy probably does deserve to be shot, but with all Obama is doing to protect foreign terrorists...it makes you wonder why it’s ok to kill a US Citizen without due process.

That's what I thought. Non-citizens get better treatment than a citizen.

209 posted on 04/07/2010 11:19:39 AM PDT by DejaJude
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To: Tolsti2

>Like others, I couldn’t help but check DU.

And what was the reaction, if any?

>Personally I don’t care if islamics are killed even if citizens. I thought that way under Bush and now hussein.

I _do_ care; very much. My mother and I disagree on rights & privileges for Islamic peoples. I sell her that once ‘we’ start limiting things based on religion it is only a matter of time before it is used against our religion.

>It’s hilarious watching a majority over on DU going the whole ‘it’s ok when WE do it’ dance. They can’t help it.

I would that there were consistency; there is a reason that Justice is supposed to be blind.

>That kind of wingnut drives me insane. They have no principles, it’s all about us vs them to those types.

I’m not sure about that. Though maybe I should clarify what I mean: as a group they may lack principals, but as individuals they all have values. {Whether those values are mainstream or righteous or evil is another matter entirely.}

Like a lot of evangelical/missionary-work there must be a lot of work ‘translating’ our message into their [individual] values for either dialog OR conversion.

>Suddenly war and privacy, 2 of the biggest things they complained about for 8 years are suddenly fine to them when it’s democrats that they insanely “trust” are in charge.

This DOES indicate that privacy & war aren’t the two biggest things; it may also be that those who DO have those as big values are “too ashamed to open their mouths.”

>Those types are mental children that should not be allowed to vote.

Unfortunately any “Intelligence” or “Current/Political Event” test that may be put to someone could be rigged; think of the ways things can be used against you before proposing a ‘limitation’ of some sort.


210 posted on 04/07/2010 11:31:01 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MichiganConservative

You are certainly not crazy FRiend. Your posts are right on. CO


211 posted on 04/07/2010 11:31:18 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: kristinn

wow... just wow... I am not defending this guy by any means.. but as an American Citizen he at least deserves a trial... non-American citizens is another issue for debate..


212 posted on 04/07/2010 11:31:40 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborneDotZurvitaDotBiz)
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To: presently no screen name

Ping Sister. Read the whole article. Quite something. CO


213 posted on 04/07/2010 11:32:31 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: wideminded

Zero has not declared Yemen as one of the ‘battlefields’ in the WOT...hell there isn’t even a WOT anymore according to his administration. To boot...didn’t Obama just reprimand Israel for running an assasination gig and killing some Hamas terrorist in DuBai? Now he is going to run the same kind of assasination gig and it’s suddenly OK? The man wants to bring foreign terrorists into America and give them taxpayer funded trials..yet he is going to target an American citizen for state sanctioned murder on foreign soil without a trial or due process?

You bet your ass this is because it is President Obama doing this. The man should be forced to live up to his own standards..should he not? Do you trust this marxist usurper? I sure as hell don’t and never will. His Homeland Security has already deemd right wing people and his own military as potential terrorists for Christ sake! How much benefit of doubt do you think we ought to extend to the American dictator?


214 posted on 04/07/2010 11:33:38 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: kristinn; Landru

well, at least he won’t have to worry about being waterboarded.


215 posted on 04/07/2010 11:35:06 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: penelopesire

He deserves all doubt and No benefit!! CO


216 posted on 04/07/2010 11:36:03 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Mr. Lucky

>You’re letting your imagination run wild.
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>The term “enemy combatant” is defined by the Geneva Conventions something to the effect of: “any person in armed conflict who may be detained under the customs of war”.

And the US Constitution SPECIFICALLY prohibits both Ex Post Facto laws and Bills of Attainder; yet there was retroactive taxation of AIG/bailout bonus recipients... violating BOTH in one fell swoop.


217 posted on 04/07/2010 11:36:34 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: kristinn

This order is in direct conflict with the due process clause of the constitution, and is grounds for impeachment.


218 posted on 04/07/2010 11:38:36 AM PDT by counterpunch (The Emperor has no Cloture)
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To: Iscool
This stuff happens...Americans just don't want to know about it...But it's certainly nothing new...

If you can find him, David Koresh can tell you all about it...


Really? When was Janet Reno president?
219 posted on 04/07/2010 11:39:08 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: penelopesire

Obama: “Rules are for others, not for me!”


220 posted on 04/07/2010 11:39:17 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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