Posted on 04/07/2010 7:24:39 AM PDT by kristinn
The term "enemy combatant" is defined by the Geneva Conventions something to the effect of: "any person in armed conflict who may be detained under the customs of war".
You are right April. Nobody seems to do anything but gripe against the biggest terrorist of all - the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and his surrounding team of terrorists. Puzzling. CO
And people around here think I’m crazy for not trusting the government and believing that they’ll eventually just start killing Americans in America.
Oh yeah. That’s right. It “can’t happen here” and “we’re free” oh yeah. If you can choose to drink Bud Lite or Miller Lite and watch UFC or wrestling, that’s is the litmus test for freedom.
Not surprising at all ...
This is the way of Federal Government power. One President or Congress creates a law or rule that may seem benign or rare or extreme or even good in a particular context, and for downstream administrations it becomes SOP and gets used in ways most people never imagined.
This is why it is so frustrating to see so many on the left just love how Obama personalizes and demonizes Fox News or Sarah Palin, or any one else ... they are too short-sighted to see that once the precedent is set, the power can be used against them someday, or anyone.
The Patriot Act may seem in one administration to be a necessary updating of wiretapping law, and in the next, an invasion of privacy applied generally. Computerized medical records in the hands of the government are used one day to facilitate national health care, and the next to intimidate and deny due process and privacy rights. Student loans managed by the government are used one year to facilitate education, and the next to deny a political enemy’s children entry into college.
Maybe Obama using this extreme power will open the eyes of some of his apologists, and hopefully collectivists in general ... the government is NOT your friend, your Mommy, your Daddy ... it is a “force like fire, a dangerous servant and a terrible master” ...
>If the American citizen takes up arms against the United States, dont they become a legitimate target?
Not necessarily; it depends on if you’re defining it as the institution itself (which surely is) OR as the _people_ [holding offices] of the institution (which EVERY member of the armed forces is possibly required to do under oath or affirmation).
The people on the left get sexually excited about the prospect of the government just killing people they think the government should kill.
Thanks for posting that tutstar. Yup, it’s all set up and ready to go. And the majority of these things are being done in the dead of night. CO
Its truly scary how inept / biased the press is.
That's what I thought. Non-citizens get better treatment than a citizen.
>Like others, I couldnt help but check DU.
And what was the reaction, if any?
>Personally I dont care if islamics are killed even if citizens. I thought that way under Bush and now hussein.
I _do_ care; very much. My mother and I disagree on rights & privileges for Islamic peoples. I sell her that once ‘we’ start limiting things based on religion it is only a matter of time before it is used against our religion.
>Its hilarious watching a majority over on DU going the whole its ok when WE do it dance. They cant help it.
I would that there were consistency; there is a reason that Justice is supposed to be blind.
>That kind of wingnut drives me insane. They have no principles, its all about us vs them to those types.
I’m not sure about that. Though maybe I should clarify what I mean: as a group they may lack principals, but as individuals they all have values. {Whether those values are mainstream or righteous or evil is another matter entirely.}
Like a lot of evangelical/missionary-work there must be a lot of work ‘translating’ our message into their [individual] values for either dialog OR conversion.
>Suddenly war and privacy, 2 of the biggest things they complained about for 8 years are suddenly fine to them when its democrats that they insanely trust are in charge.
This DOES indicate that privacy & war aren’t the two biggest things; it may also be that those who DO have those as big values are “too ashamed to open their mouths.”
>Those types are mental children that should not be allowed to vote.
Unfortunately any “Intelligence” or “Current/Political Event” test that may be put to someone could be rigged; think of the ways things can be used against you before proposing a ‘limitation’ of some sort.
You are certainly not crazy FRiend. Your posts are right on. CO
wow... just wow... I am not defending this guy by any means.. but as an American Citizen he at least deserves a trial... non-American citizens is another issue for debate..
Ping Sister. Read the whole article. Quite something. CO
Zero has not declared Yemen as one of the ‘battlefields’ in the WOT...hell there isn’t even a WOT anymore according to his administration. To boot...didn’t Obama just reprimand Israel for running an assasination gig and killing some Hamas terrorist in DuBai? Now he is going to run the same kind of assasination gig and it’s suddenly OK? The man wants to bring foreign terrorists into America and give them taxpayer funded trials..yet he is going to target an American citizen for state sanctioned murder on foreign soil without a trial or due process?
You bet your ass this is because it is President Obama doing this. The man should be forced to live up to his own standards..should he not? Do you trust this marxist usurper? I sure as hell don’t and never will. His Homeland Security has already deemd right wing people and his own military as potential terrorists for Christ sake! How much benefit of doubt do you think we ought to extend to the American dictator?
well, at least he won’t have to worry about being waterboarded.
He deserves all doubt and No benefit!! CO
>You’re letting your imagination run wild.
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>The term “enemy combatant” is defined by the Geneva Conventions something to the effect of: “any person in armed conflict who may be detained under the customs of war”.
And the US Constitution SPECIFICALLY prohibits both Ex Post Facto laws and Bills of Attainder; yet there was retroactive taxation of AIG/bailout bonus recipients... violating BOTH in one fell swoop.
This order is in direct conflict with the due process clause of the constitution, and is grounds for impeachment.
Obama: “Rules are for others, not for me!”
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