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Accuracy in Media ^ | March 29, 2010 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 03/30/2010 7:53:02 AM PDT by AIM Freeper

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To: Gigantor
Nice attempt to change the subject.

The subject of my post was that the drug lords won't suddenly become law-abiding citizens if pot is made legal. Apparently you believe they will. How naive.

81 posted on 03/31/2010 5:28:22 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: BiggieLittle
Not at all but it would cut off a large income stream.

I believe it will increase the level of violence as they vie for "market share" for other blackmarket products.

82 posted on 03/31/2010 5:29:48 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Ken H
How much profit potential could be left in these enterprises?

Don't know. But I believe the level of violence would escalate as the different groups vie for "marketshare" of other blackmarket products.

Suppose CA votes to legalize. Do you think CA has the legitimate prerogative under the 10th Amendment to enact such a program? Or do you think the Commerce Clause authorizes fedgov to shut it down?

I'm not a constitutional expert. If you truly want my non-expert opinion, I would say that CA has the right to legalize. And surrounding states have the right to set police at the borders to lock up anyone who crosses state lines while high or while holding pot. (Good way for them to increase revenues. Levy heavy fines instead of locking them up.)

83 posted on 03/31/2010 5:33:16 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Crim
hrm...isnt that the whole point?

It seems clear the level of violence would only increase as the different groups vie for "marketshare" of other blackmarket products. So if the point is to increase the violence, then by all means, legalize pot. Personally, I don't think an increase in violence would be a good thing.

84 posted on 03/31/2010 5:35:31 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

“It seems clear the level of violence would only increase as the different groups vie for “marketshare” of other blackmarket products.”

Clear to whom?

I’d point to history vs the henny penny argument...

Joe Kennedy got rich off of prohabition....

“So if the point is to increase the violence, then by all means, legalize pot. Personally, I don’t think an increase in violence would be a good thing”

No...the point is to remove the black market value of Pot...just like the point was to remove the black market value of Booze...

When is the last time you heard two beer distibutors going to war over a sales territory??


85 posted on 03/31/2010 7:58:20 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim
Clear to whom?

Clear to me. If these gangs are now fighting over the selling of pot, how much more so will they fight when the "pool" of blackmarket products is reduced.

I can't believe that people think these gangs are going to just shrug their shoulders and say "oh well" and allow their wallets to get thinner. How naive.

Joe Kennedy got rich off of prohabition....

And? The mafia got rich off prohibition too. When it was repealed, they just went on to other things. If pot is legalized, these drug lords will just go on to other things, fighting tooth and nail for a bigger "marketshare" of other blackmarket products.

No...the point is to remove the black market value of Pot

And that gains us what exactly?

86 posted on 03/31/2010 8:25:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

Like I said...the henny penny argument...

The sky will fall....


87 posted on 03/31/2010 8:34:43 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim
I see. So you believe these thugs will just settle down and be happy with what they have left of their revenues from blackmarket products. Got it.

:::rolls eyes:::

88 posted on 03/31/2010 8:49:10 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

Strawman...dont tell me what I do, or do not, believe...

I can point directly to the repeal of prohabition as a model...

You are tossing out an endless string of “what if’s” and doing the fear monger dance...


89 posted on 03/31/2010 9:45:56 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim
I can point directly to the repeal of prohabition as a model...

Yes, a model that shows the thugs don't just become model citizens when one source of revenue is taken away.

90 posted on 03/31/2010 10:04:14 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

You be speak English real good like.


91 posted on 03/31/2010 10:49:51 AM PDT by Nate505
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To: GeorgeSaden

You don’t remember the Kennedy’s?


92 posted on 03/31/2010 10:53:10 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: MEGoody

“I can point directly to the repeal of prohabition as a model...”

“Yes, a model that shows the thugs don’t just become model citizens when one source of revenue is taken away.”

Buckley agrees with me...while Rangle agrees with you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_-dtU_esJ8


93 posted on 03/31/2010 11:23:38 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim
So you agree with Buckley that anyone who sells drugs to a minor should be executed? Interesting.

Personally, I don't agree with Rangel that anyone who sells drugs should go to jail for life.

My argument is that it is silly to say the problem with the Mexican drug lords is going to go away if pot is legalized. They will simply concentrate their efforts on other blackmarket products. Would you agree with that premise? If not, what exactly do you think will happen?

Do you think the level of violence among the Mexican drug lords will decrease or increase if pot is made legal? Why?

94 posted on 03/31/2010 12:02:26 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Nate505
You be speak English real good like.

Are you one of the resident potheads here?

95 posted on 03/31/2010 7:59:39 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: MEGoody

Irrelevant: no one is making that absurd argument.

What it *will* do is eliminate the profit motive for selling illegal pot - they could not compete with large manufacturers and home growers.

It will cut off the current income stream from that crop.


96 posted on 04/01/2010 4:23:50 PM PDT by Gigantor (Freedom carries with it responsibility. Too many want freedom FROM responsibility...)
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To: Gigantor
What it *will* do is eliminate the profit motive for selling illegal pot

And that benefits me how? I believe it will increase violence levels, and that's not a good thing. People who have small amounts of pot aren't generally put in jail if that's all that's going on. So why is this a good thing for me?

97 posted on 04/05/2010 9:58:00 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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