Posted on 03/19/2010 7:45:03 PM PDT by LdSentinal
And with good reason, it is spelled out very clearly in the US Constitution!
Its an amendment that says to the senate, you have to do this or... what ever. Its not what they will be voting on on Sunday assuming they vote. They will vote on that amendment after that. That being said. I hold no hope for this situation at all. Despair is all I know.
This is a Tragedy for freedom. There it goes folks... the last beacon of hope on earth dies.....
Firedog lake is a liberal site, but they have been vehemently anti this bill -- for liberal reasons, but they aren't messing around -- they are whipping votes AGAINST the bill, and their whip count articles are as good as anybody else's, and maybe better -- at least they are easier to understand, and they have a good chart to keep track with.
>> You are wrong.
Yes, the ‘Reproductive Rights’ argument is not directly related to public funding. I’m not suggesting it’s connected.
I’m arguing against the ‘Reproductive Rights’ reasoning that says killing an unborn human is an intrinsic right to motherhood.
I’m saying the right to reproduce is not in question at all.
Using the link at top of this post I got this. I don’t understand what you are saying.
Good lord Nancy. This enrollment correction is usually for technical changes, not changing the bill’s intent. They are getting desparate, the Dems.
The Stupak compromise will be included in the "Deemed passed" provision, which of course includes the Senate bill. It will then be left up to the mercy of the Senate, which will vote it down. Once the Senate bill passes, the Senate will have gotten everything they want. There will be no reason for them to accept House provisions that they already rejected. And on top of that, Senate Republicans have already put the House on notice that all 41 of them will be voting against the new bill coming from the House. If Stupak accepts this, he is a both a fool and a sell-out to the abortion industry.
And forget about the 'no federal funding' claim. The real enemy here is the Mikulski Amendment.
NOOOO! AW S*&T!!! I knew he would cave in.
Refer to post 35 for an answer to that, bout sums up what these communists are up to.
Not surprised one bit. Looks like we’re going to have to stop this monstrosity in the courts.
Does anyone believe this?
But his wife wants to watch TV again.
This is true. He goes from a appearing to be a shrewd and capable legislator to stooge. I'm not sure I believe this yet. I think he has a presser tomorrow. Then we will know.
Stupak folds tomorrow morning if he says they can take vote on this “correction” after passage of Recon vote. Basically he will be leaving it at mercy of recon process to stay in bill.
My thought is, the bill once passed is passed, according to the Constitution, and the Concurrent Resolution is just a procedure that stays the enrollment (transmission) of the bill to the President. If the Concurrent Resolution fails, you still have a bill that was, in reality, passed, even if the Congressional Rules say it can’t be enrolled. Now what is to stop Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden from signing the bill and sending it to the President anyway? Only Congressional rules. This is pretty dangerous territory.
The Supreme Court can be packed by a President, Vice President and 50 Senators.
I can think of hundreds of things of things related to Obamacare going back for years and years. The travesties in the 2008 Senate elections in Alaska and Minnesota come to mind. That doesn't mean FR would be better or more interesting if I were to pick a thread about Stupak and abortion as a place to demonstrated unhinged, obsessive behavior related to any of them for about 20 column inches.
Would a a seemingly endless montage of links to articles about Ted Stevens' railroading fit in this thread and make for interesting reading for others, or would that make me look like I have a hard time staying on topic? Really? Really?
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