Posted on 03/17/2010 9:02:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
There is no biblical reference to having the government steal from one person to give to another. What the bible does advocate is that we give out of the abundance that God has given to us. And charatable giving always increases when taxes are lowered and decreases when taxes are raised
“If you donate $100 to the Salvation Army, most of it will actually be used to help people.”
True, you’d might not be so excited to help some of these “needing people” if you saw a lot of them. At Christmas, I volunteered at the Salvation Army for their present give away.
The place was filled with rude people talking on their blue tooth phones who drove up in their Cadillac Escalades and women carrying $1000 purses.
Many of these people will claim they have 8 children.
I think I’d rather the $90 to go to a lazy government buerocrat.
This social justice movement looks for the government to be the answer, not Christ, his followers and the underprivileged themselves to provide for peoples needs!! Also, these churches preach this garbage exclusively and never go near the preaching of the actual gospel. All the good works in the world are empty if congregants do not receive Christ as savior.
“Social justice” usually refers to the notion that it is somehow “unjust” that someone who works gets paid and someone who doesn’t work, doesn’t.
There is a difference between leaving a church, and leaving the faith. A church is a building, a group of people who worship together. If the values of an invidiual church depart from that of scripture, it is likely worth finding another church.
In most cases, “social justice” is a euphemism for socialism ... and it is as corrupting within the church as is the “prosperity gospel”. “Social justice” churches tend to preach as if Christ was a community organizer, a peacenik, a groovy guy who wore robes and sandals, had long flowy hair, and preached free love. It is a distortion of the gospel for political ends.
SnakeDoc
Great thread. Thanks to every poster. HOORAY Glenn Beck!
While I agree with Beck about leaving churches that preach social justice, I also strongly urge them to leave any group that doesn’t teach historic Christian Trinitarianism.
They aren’t really Christian.
Learn the lesson of Joseph and the Hebrews. Joseph helped Pharaoh plunder the people to help the people through a crisis, to take their property, to move them into cities, and to make them serfs, paying Pharaoh to take care of them, and Joseph’s great grandchildren became Pharaoh’s slaves. That kind of social justice will turn us into slaves too. The principles of good government are embodied in the ten commandments and the golden rule, beginning with thou shall not use government to steal from others, as you would not have others stealing from you.
Thanks for not keeping this confined to the “religion” forums.
I don’t like to respond there, because it feels like trolling.
Here, these socialist churches can be held in the light and viewed for their actions.
I agree. "Justice" is a legal term... it's an ominous sign when a movement intending to impose legal ramifications on social norms. As for churches having always been about social justice, I have to say, I'm surprised. I thought they were about salvation.
intending = intends ... I didn’t follow through on my edit. Oops.
Jim Wallis servers another Master. Time to call these monsters for who and what they are.
It’s been some time since the majority of our churches have fallen under the sway of the Gramscian long march through the institutions. They are corrupt, and should be treated as such. Make your own arrangement with your Creator. Lose the corrupt middlemen.
I recall Walter Williams offering a $1,000 bounty for anyone who can coherently define “social justice.” I doubt it has been claimed.
At my church they had a couple speak for about 10 minutes after mass about “social teaching” and they invited parishoners to go to the donut social where they had a booth. I checked it out and saw a few books penned by Jim Wallis (Commie/heretic). I knew to walk away when I saw that and many others did too when they saw those books. I was there for about 40 minutes and looked like they drew very few people to talk them and the auditorium was packed. Most people in our parish are very kind, generous people and recognized this heresy for what is.
He is a commie.
He’s worse. He is a monster, using the trappings of religion to sell slavery and submission to tyranny.
“Beware of false prophets who come to you as wolves in sheep’s clothing!”
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